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Epic games has the potential to be the virtual Disney World - just available to everyone on the planet instead of those with enough money to visit a park IRL. D

Epic games has the potential to be the virtual Disney World - just available to everyone on the planet instead of those with enough money to visit a park IRL. Disney has a great flywheel where their IP drives content, toys, and experiences. This is just the latest experience, and it’s something they can’t build themselves. I bet you can expect more content on fortnite to be with Disney IP; skins, events, maps, everything. It’ll be a great way to promote new movies/TV shows with cross-platform events. Fortnite has already had great luck with this sort of thing, so it makes sense for Disney to want access to it. Maybe you’ll even see IRL Fortnite experiences in theme parks or a Fortnite IP based movie or TV show.

tapoxi 3y ago
Disney has had access to it, there were a lot of Fortnite Avengers promotions. It obviously worked well enough for them to want to invest.
- pests 3y ago
  I've expected a Fortnite movie for awhile now. The current storyline would be perfect for someone like J.J with his histroy of mistique. Nit: It was all of Marvel not just Avengers and I think they did Star Wars too already.
  - mattbrewsbytes 3y ago
    I've played fortnite on an off since there were seasons. I have no idea what the storyline is, there are some cut scenes when there is a new season but it make no sense. Claiming there is a storyline is a stretch, I think it is just cover for changing up the map/gear to keep it fresh.
    - acomjean 3y ago
      I'll agree. My partner plays and I play a little. There seems to be a story but it matters little and doesn't seem to make sense (i guess the plot points that change the map matter)
      - pests 3y ago
        There is definitely a storyline going on if follow the cutscenes and pay attention to the map. Ever in the earliest seasons they were doing map-based story telling. For example, trucks showed up and started moving shards to one of the towns on the coast. Random updates would move the trucks. Many plot elements develop this way over time. The core plot is asking "Why are we stuck in this loop?" It does get convoluted, but it's there. Various agencies are involved, the Zero Point (which causes the looping behavior) has manifested as many things over the seasons. Aliens and inter dimensional being seek after it. Maybe you had to be there, but the first batch of seasons and even chapter 2 had many online theorizing and trying to guess what's next. It's like a digital Lost.
        mattbrewsbytes 3y ago
        > "Why are we stuck in this loop?" Its because its fun to shoot things in video games, and wreck cars, and building forts and demolishing entire buildings and trying to keep up with my kids. Why are spiderman, darth vader and predator there? Money. There's no coherent story telling, which is fine, the game is still fun. People play it for the fun factor, not the story.
chaostheory 3y ago
> Epic games has the potential to be the virtual Disney World - just available to everyone on the planet instead of those with enough money to visit a park IRL. How? EPIC doesn’t have a VR platform at the moment. The deal still makes sense though. Disney needs to control a video game platform.
- ralusek 3y ago
  1.) Unreal Engine can be used in VR... 2.) Virtual worlds don't need to be VR
  - gamepsys 3y ago
    Unreal Engine isn't a VR platform, it's a tool that can be used to create a VR platform. "The Platform" in this context is a position that allows you to collect ~30% fee of revenue generated. Unreal Engine's position is much much smaller. Using my definitions Epic gamestore technically counts as a VR platform, but isn't positioned to become market leader.
    - samplatt 3y ago
      You're correct but being overly pedantic. Not only is Unreal one of the biggest engines chosen for use with VR games but it's also one of the easiest and most effective for modders to retroactively inject the ability to use a game in VR.
      - chaostheory 3y ago
        Unreal is just an engine just like Valve’s source engine. It’s a tool for developers and it’s not a destination for consumers. I’m right in pointing out that you guys are confusing a game engine for a video game platform. They are two very different things, and I’m not being “overly pedantic”.
  - chaostheory 3y ago
    As someone else already mentioned, Unreal isn’t the Epic or Steam platform. SteamVR != Source engine > Virtual worlds don't need to be VR Yes, but flat pancake games are even poorer at simulating a Disney theme park IRL than VR. It doesn’t even come close to a substitute, especially for the rides.
bakugo 3y ago
> Epic games has the potential to be the virtual Disney World This is what everyone said about Lego, and a bunch of other collabs that came before. It was never true and it's not true now. Turns out people don't want a "virtual world", they want a fun game.
- vineyardmike 3y ago
  A bunch of the collabs have been super successful. They don’t need to build a permanent Second Life type metaverse BS. Look at their concerts in Fortnite’s universe. Very successful at attracting eyes and money. “Virtual Disney world” doesn’t mean VR roller coasters, it means Disney themed digital experiences (eg fun games). Disney and Epic have a decent track record building fun and profitable experiences for people.
  - chaostheory 3y ago
    To be fair, you did mention replicating the “Disney park experience IRL”, so yes it does mean VR Disney rides since that’s the closest that you’ll get to that experience. A flat screen is not going to come close to it.
- romusha 3y ago
  Turns out people never ask about metaverse, and no one cares that it's gone and never talked about again
- maxsilver 3y ago
  > Turns out people don't want a "virtual world", they want a fun game. Arguably, there are people who want a "virtual world" -- and they currently just play Roblox to get it. Enough of them like it, that every major retailer stocks "Robux" gift cards
  - nitwit005 3y ago
    Sort of. Roblox resembles a game collection. Fortnite is increasingly similar.
dorkwood 3y ago
I see huge potential for NFT integration as well. Imagine buying a Mickey Mouse skin in Fortnight and being able to use it in one of Epic Games' other games too. Lots of possibilities.
- atomicUpdate 3y ago
  No one thinks NFTs have a future anywhere anymore, least of which in gaming. Nothing you described needs NFTs or crypto in any way either.
  - mrguyorama 3y ago
    And most importantly of all, game publishers do not want you to be able to use something you buy in Game A to decorate your character in Game B, because they want to skim more money out of you buying a new artificially scarce item in Game B. Hell, Valve literally already did this with all CS:GO skins carrying over to CS2, it required zero blockchain, doesn't actually give you "control" over the item, and was only done because players have spent literal tens of thousands of dollars on skins and Valve needed to throw them a bone so they would be slightly less upset about CS:GO being essentially memory-holed.
- c0pium 3y ago
  Oh man, remember NFTs? Glad that’s over.
  - Zpalmtree 3y ago
    NFTs are doing just fine
    - 2024throwaway 3y ago
      [Citation needed]
    - guappa 3y ago
      As in "existing" sure, as in "having any value" not really.
amelius 3y ago
Both are doomed with the advent of generative AI.
rl3 3y ago
>Epic games has the potential to be the virtual Disney World ... I miss Unreal and Unreal Tournament.
- Draiken 3y ago
  This, so much. Unfortunately all we get is content now. Even games have started to become pure daily content.

tapoxi 3y ago

Disney has had access to it, there were a lot of Fortnite Avengers promotions. It obviously worked well enough for them to want to invest.

pests 3y ago
I've expected a Fortnite movie for awhile now. The current storyline would be perfect for someone like J.J with his histroy of mistique. Nit: It was all of Marvel not just Avengers and I think they did Star Wars too already.
- mattbrewsbytes 3y ago
  I've played fortnite on an off since there were seasons. I have no idea what the storyline is, there are some cut scenes when there is a new season but it make no sense. Claiming there is a storyline is a stretch, I think it is just cover for changing up the map/gear to keep it fresh.
  - acomjean 3y ago
    I'll agree. My partner plays and I play a little. There seems to be a story but it matters little and doesn't seem to make sense (i guess the plot points that change the map matter)
    - pests 3y ago
      There is definitely a storyline going on if follow the cutscenes and pay attention to the map. Ever in the earliest seasons they were doing map-based story telling. For example, trucks showed up and started moving shards to one of the towns on the coast. Random updates would move the trucks. Many plot elements develop this way over time. The core plot is asking "Why are we stuck in this loop?" It does get convoluted, but it's there. Various agencies are involved, the Zero Point (which causes the looping behavior) has manifested as many things over the seasons. Aliens and inter dimensional being seek after it. Maybe you had to be there, but the first batch of seasons and even chapter 2 had many online theorizing and trying to guess what's next. It's like a digital Lost.
      - mattbrewsbytes 3y ago
        > "Why are we stuck in this loop?" Its because its fun to shoot things in video games, and wreck cars, and building forts and demolishing entire buildings and trying to keep up with my kids. Why are spiderman, darth vader and predator there? Money. There's no coherent story telling, which is fine, the game is still fun. People play it for the fun factor, not the story.

chaostheory 3y ago

> Epic games has the potential to be the virtual Disney World - just available to everyone on the planet instead of those with enough money to visit a park IRL. How? EPIC doesn’t have a VR platform at the moment. The deal still makes sense though. Disney needs to control a video game platform.

ralusek 3y ago
1.) Unreal Engine can be used in VR... 2.) Virtual worlds don't need to be VR
- gamepsys 3y ago
  Unreal Engine isn't a VR platform, it's a tool that can be used to create a VR platform. "The Platform" in this context is a position that allows you to collect ~30% fee of revenue generated. Unreal Engine's position is much much smaller. Using my definitions Epic gamestore technically counts as a VR platform, but isn't positioned to become market leader.
  - samplatt 3y ago
    You're correct but being overly pedantic. Not only is Unreal one of the biggest engines chosen for use with VR games but it's also one of the easiest and most effective for modders to retroactively inject the ability to use a game in VR.
    - chaostheory 3y ago
      Unreal is just an engine just like Valve’s source engine. It’s a tool for developers and it’s not a destination for consumers. I’m right in pointing out that you guys are confusing a game engine for a video game platform. They are two very different things, and I’m not being “overly pedantic”.
- chaostheory 3y ago
  As someone else already mentioned, Unreal isn’t the Epic or Steam platform. SteamVR != Source engine > Virtual worlds don't need to be VR Yes, but flat pancake games are even poorer at simulating a Disney theme park IRL than VR. It doesn’t even come close to a substitute, especially for the rides.

bakugo 3y ago

> Epic games has the potential to be the virtual Disney World This is what everyone said about Lego, and a bunch of other collabs that came before. It was never true and it's not true now. Turns out people don't want a "virtual world", they want a fun game.

vineyardmike 3y ago
A bunch of the collabs have been super successful. They don’t need to build a permanent Second Life type metaverse BS. Look at their concerts in Fortnite’s universe. Very successful at attracting eyes and money. “Virtual Disney world” doesn’t mean VR roller coasters, it means Disney themed digital experiences (eg fun games). Disney and Epic have a decent track record building fun and profitable experiences for people.
- chaostheory 3y ago
  To be fair, you did mention replicating the “Disney park experience IRL”, so yes it does mean VR Disney rides since that’s the closest that you’ll get to that experience. A flat screen is not going to come close to it.
romusha 3y ago
Turns out people never ask about metaverse, and no one cares that it's gone and never talked about again
maxsilver 3y ago
> Turns out people don't want a "virtual world", they want a fun game. Arguably, there are people who want a "virtual world" -- and they currently just play Roblox to get it. Enough of them like it, that every major retailer stocks "Robux" gift cards
- nitwit005 3y ago
  Sort of. Roblox resembles a game collection. Fortnite is increasingly similar.

dorkwood 3y ago

I see huge potential for NFT integration as well. Imagine buying a Mickey Mouse skin in Fortnight and being able to use it in one of Epic Games' other games too. Lots of possibilities.

atomicUpdate 3y ago
No one thinks NFTs have a future anywhere anymore, least of which in gaming. Nothing you described needs NFTs or crypto in any way either.
- mrguyorama 3y ago
  And most importantly of all, game publishers do not want you to be able to use something you buy in Game A to decorate your character in Game B, because they want to skim more money out of you buying a new artificially scarce item in Game B. Hell, Valve literally already did this with all CS:GO skins carrying over to CS2, it required zero blockchain, doesn't actually give you "control" over the item, and was only done because players have spent literal tens of thousands of dollars on skins and Valve needed to throw them a bone so they would be slightly less upset about CS:GO being essentially memory-holed.
c0pium 3y ago
Oh man, remember NFTs? Glad that’s over.
- Zpalmtree 3y ago
  NFTs are doing just fine
  - 2024throwaway 3y ago
    [Citation needed]
  - guappa 3y ago
    As in "existing" sure, as in "having any value" not really.

amelius 3y ago

Both are doomed with the advent of generative AI.

rl3 3y ago

>Epic games has the potential to be the virtual Disney World ... I miss Unreal and Unreal Tournament.

Draiken 3y ago
This, so much. Unfortunately all we get is content now. Even games have started to become pure daily content.