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I'm so glad that NACS has won. I love my Model 3, but I already decided that my next car would not be a Tesla because I don't like the direction the design of

I'm so glad that NACS has won. I love my Model 3, but I already decided that my next car would not be a Tesla because I don't like the direction the design of the cars have been going, and I don't want to give more money to Elon Musk, but I'm still going to remain an EV driver. I have a Tesla wall charger in my garage. By everyone switching to NACS, it means I don't need to replace it. Still praying the Corvette EV impresses, and praying that I won't have to be on a 12+ month waitlist to get one.

MBCook 3y ago
I’m glad it won, I’m heavily annoyed by the process. Tesla could have won at any point, but they waited until a ton of cars were sold and a ton of infrastructure was built just to obsolete it all.
- seanmcdirmid 3y ago
  I don't think Tesla could have predicted that everyone but them would have sucked at charging infrastructure. EA turned into a huge bust, VW just didn't have their heart into it.
  - toomuchtodo 3y ago
    EA was a penalty for VW's Dieselgate. They didn't have their heart in it because they didn't think EVs were going to win. Oops. Tesla's sales depended on the Supercharger network to soothe consumer range anxiety for long distance travel. It was existential to build it, so might as well save nothing for the swim back (>$1B investment globally). It is now an asset that legacy auto needs access to in order to sell EVs they must build and sell to survive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrify_America https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrify_America
    - Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
      Yeah, Tesla understood that charging infrastructure and selling EVs is a chicken-and-egg problem. Very few people will buy an EV without a large charging infrastructure. Nobody would build a charging infrastructure if there weren't enough EVs sold to use them. So Tesla did both: Sold EVs and built a huge charging infrastructure. The Tesla Supercharger network is an under-advertised feature. The third party networks are just so half-assed. Slow (The 19.2 kW J-1772 plug should have never existed, and it took too long for CCS to catch on), expensive, and half the time not even working.

MBCook 3y ago

I’m glad it won, I’m heavily annoyed by the process. Tesla could have won at any point, but they waited until a ton of cars were sold and a ton of infrastructure was built just to obsolete it all.

seanmcdirmid 3y ago
I don't think Tesla could have predicted that everyone but them would have sucked at charging infrastructure. EA turned into a huge bust, VW just didn't have their heart into it.
- toomuchtodo 3y ago
  EA was a penalty for VW's Dieselgate. They didn't have their heart in it because they didn't think EVs were going to win. Oops. Tesla's sales depended on the Supercharger network to soothe consumer range anxiety for long distance travel. It was existential to build it, so might as well save nothing for the swim back (>$1B investment globally). It is now an asset that legacy auto needs access to in order to sell EVs they must build and sell to survive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrify_America https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrify_America
  - Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
    Yeah, Tesla understood that charging infrastructure and selling EVs is a chicken-and-egg problem. Very few people will buy an EV without a large charging infrastructure. Nobody would build a charging infrastructure if there weren't enough EVs sold to use them. So Tesla did both: Sold EVs and built a huge charging infrastructure. The Tesla Supercharger network is an under-advertised feature. The third party networks are just so half-assed. Slow (The 19.2 kW J-1772 plug should have never existed, and it took too long for CCS to catch on), expensive, and half the time not even working.