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1. Japan is a vassal state of the US. 2. Japan has a different work and compensation culture than European countries. 3. China is no discernible threat to Jap
by boringuser2 3y ago
1. Japan is a vassal state of the US.
2. Japan has a different work and compensation culture than European countries.
3. China is no discernible threat to Japan.
- krapht 3y ago3: Hmmm. Not according to Japan's 2023 defense white paper. https://www.mod.go.jp/en/publ/w_paper/wp2023/DOJ2023_Digest_EN.pdf https://www.mod.go.jp/en/publ/w_paper/wp2023/DOJ2023_Digest_...
- boringuser2 3y agoI wouldn't put much stock in the strategic implications of these publicized papers outside of the strategic implications being that they want you to think China is a discernible threat. It's similar to the Israel/Iran thing with the end goal being trying to drum up the warmongers. Just reading a few sentences of that, it reads exactly like warmonger rhetoric that we all know intimately rather than inside baseball.
- krapht 3y agoUh, are you saying that Iran wouldn't erase Israel from the Middle East if they had the capability to do so? Where are you going with this? It's indisputable that Iran sponsors anti-Israeli militias across the Middle East, which would qualify them as a threat.
- snapcaster 3y agoIsrael has nukes, I don't think any country within missile range is going to wipe them off the map
- boringuser2 3y agoI believe that whether or not Iran would erase Israel from the Middle East, which they probably would, along with a certainty than Israel not only would erase Iran from the Middle East, but has been actively trying to get the US to do so for some time -- the reality is that the only erasure thus far that has been actually executed in earnest is by the Israelis on behalf of the Gazans. Which would, you know, qualify Israel as "a threat". And they certainly are, in many ways. To what or whom, you haven't really made clear, but certainly a threat. Anyhow, I'm really not interested in this level of discussion because it feels extremely superficial. It also feels quite gross to either take seriously or promote warmonger rhetoric, but that's just my personal opinion. Also, please do not predicate your posts with "uh", it's a bit silly.
- Razengan 3y agoYou're the only user here trying to aggravate everyone.
- boringuser2 3y ago>having a different opinion is "aggravating" Why did you post this when it is clearly non-productive at best and an obvious terms violation?
- edgyquant 3y agoIf you think Iran isn’t a threat to Israel I believe it is your opinion we shouldn’t put much stock in
- boringuser2 3y agoIsrael is a larger threat to Iran than Iran is to Israel, I think that's relatively obvious and can't really be argued.
- edgyquant 3y agoIsrael is not an existential threat to the existence of Iran. What world do you live in?
- boringuser2 3y agoIran has started no wars in recent memory, killed no civilians, etc. Iran has, nevertheless, been the constant target of Israel attempting to drag the USA into a cataclysmic war. What world do you live in?
- edgyquant 3y agoIran hasn’t directly started any wars, but has been fighting proxy wars across the Middle East and Africa for over a generation. You are seriously misinformed here and should not be discussing this stuff until that changes. The entire spectrum of conflicts in the Middle East right now are all coordinated by Iran and its revolutionary guard.
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago> Iran has started no wars in recent memory, killed no civilians By that measure, America’s never done any mischief in Latin America!
- selimthegrim 3y agoThey bombed Pakistan the other day.
- tjpnz 3y ago>3. China is no discernible threat to Japan. China is known to make spurious territorial claims. What happens if they produce an ancient fishing map tomorrow claiming Okinawa as their own?
- mrangle 3y agoUnless China plans on a war of mutual total destruction, it can't take Okinawa let alone stand against the rest of Japan.
- lebean 3y agoA vassal state?
- gggmaster 3y agoObviously
- ThisIsMyAltAcct 3y agoUsing a definition of "vassal" that's so broad as to be meaningless, yes
- edgyquant 3y agoHow is it meaningless? Japan was conquered and has had its constitution written by the US while hosting a large number of its troops. The only difference between this and any other historical vassal state is the US paints an illusion of not being one and its economic system doesn’t require tribute to profit greatly as it favors trade.
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- ThisIsMyAltAcct 3y agoIt also is free to amend and revise its constitution, to terminate the US-Japan defense treaty (Article 10), to pursue its own foreign policy goals, etc. "Vassal state" is an old term with specific connotations that fits Japan if you sort of squint the right way but really doesn't.
- edgyquant 3y agoIf Japan ended its defense treaty and began pursing goals counter to US interests, you are mistaken if you think it would lead to a conflict.
- ThisIsMyAltAcct 3y ago
- berserk1010 3y agoHere's an interesting and often used Chinese government propaganda word they use: vassal. It's meant to insult any U.S allies that work together with U.S against Chinese aggression, and to try to drive a wedge between the countries. Nevermind that it's so obvious it never works. And they never call Russia or North Korea a Chinese vassal officially - although some Chinese netizens do
- severino 3y ago> It's meant to insult any U.S allies Lol, there's no such thing as "US allies". All US presidents agree, but only Trump acknowledged it.