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Global warming is real, but I wish we paid more attention to biodiversity and set goals there instead of fixating on temperature. I understand why temperature i
by jmward01 3y ago
Global warming is real, but I wish we paid more attention to biodiversity and set goals there instead of fixating on temperature. I understand why temperature is there. It is easy to measure and an easy number to campaign around, but biodiversity, to me, is the actual point and focusing on temperature, while a major factor, diminishes the many other issues attacking it.
- vlovich123 3y agoWe’re already doing piss poor responding to a simple number that’s super easy to measure and evaluate predictions against. Do you think a harder to measure more argumentative measure would make global warming easier to tackle?
- blagie 3y agoYes.
- jmward01 3y agoIt is a really hard problem to survive. The only somewhat successful, so far, long term strategy I know of is the one we see in nature, diversity. Healthy ecosystems are always diverse. Diversity helps absorb shocks and exploit nitches that enable growth. But here is the kicker, diversity is helpful in every system to keep it alive, including the diversity of arguments we use in educating people. By focusing on just one argument we are making a mistake. I'm not saying we throw out temp targets and discussing them, but we need more valid discussions to increase the diversity of the discussion so that it survives and thrives.
- xnx 3y agoAgree. Climate change is just one of the ways (and a big one) that habitat is being destroyed. Ocean acidification, conversion of forests and fields to farmland, and fertilizer runoff are others.
- orwin 3y agoClimate change and acidification have the same main causes.
- tasty_freeze 3y agoIf the message that "Climate change is happening, it will cause starvation, large scale displacement, and regional conflicts, and significant economic disruption" isn't enough to make people take notice, why would "Here is a list of creatures you have never seen in real life and might live on a different continent from you" would have any impact?
- sho_hn 3y agoIt won't, because many of today's children are already growing up used to the lack of biodiversity . If you're living in a large city, wildlife and insects are things you see on Netflix and in video games and sort of abstractly know are somewhere out there. Maybe.
- Fricken 3y agoWWII was something most Americans only read about in the news. They were still willing to die for the cause.
- richrichie 3y ago[flagged]
- spoiler 3y agoWell, I think I understand your sentiment. You believe it's racket because it hasn't happened yet, so it's just FUD? I guess it could be, but is it worth ignoring the risk if it isn't just some FUD? This is second-hand anecdotal, but: there are already agricultural issues in Croatia, and the people aren't sure why. A good suspect is global warming, and assuming it is, it probably isn't an isolated case either I know there's lots of politicking and bickering around global warming, but IMO this is something worth putting differences aside to get to the bottom of, and how much of an impact it might have on the planet (and by extension people)
- richrichie 3y ago
- nine_k 3y agoI would say that the rising level of oceans must be pretty significant for a lot of people, because most people live near a coast. Building a wall to protect NYC or Tokyo from flooding would be quite noticeable and expensive. Flooding a city that fails to handle the rise of the oceans would be even more noticeable. Biodiversity may eventually become higher with a warmer overall climate, as it has occurred in the past.