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Why do you single out 2k? The term "4k" is just as wrong and purely marketing driven as well. The resolution that's usually behind 2k, which is 1440p as you've

by ffsm8 3y ago

Why do you single out 2k? The term "4k" is just as wrong and purely marketing driven as well. The resolution that's usually behind 2k, which is 1440p as you've correctly pointed out, is usually available as torrents too.

Dylan16807 3y ago
Rounding 1920 to 2k and 3840 to 4k is not too bad. And yes it's marketing to switch from height to width, but whatever. Rounding 2560 to 2k is massively confusing. Don't do it. 2.5k or don't use "k" at all. And when I go look at a couple torrent sites and scroll through movies and tv shows, I'm not seeing a single 1440p in the first couple pages. Some searches show barely anything at all.
- defrost 3y ago
  The first site I checked has 317 pages of 50x 2160p listings per page going back seven years. The most recent entry is: How To Train Your Dragon The Hidden World (2019) 2160p 4K BluRay 5 1-LAMA Format : HEVC Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 1 634 pixels Display aspect ratio : 2.35:1 Near the top is a recent TV episode: True Detective S04E04 Night Country Part 4 2160p MAX WEB-DL DDP5 1 DoVi x265-NTb Format : HEVC Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 1 920 pixels Display aspect ratio : 2.000 What makes things problematic is the overbearing love for letterbox like aspect ratios, even pirates have standards and they're having to bundle a slew of aspect ratios together .. this comes from the production companies.
  - Dylan16807 3y ago
    I think you agree with me? You overwhelmingly see 1280x720, 1920x1080, and 3840x2160, sometimes with a truncated height because of aspect ratio but usually advertised with the full height for consistency reasons. There's barely any 2560x1440. Anyone going above 1080p goes directly to 4k. Youtube is pretty much the only place I've ever seen 1440p encodes, and that's because they're super version-happy and make 20 different variants of a video.
    - defrost 3y ago
      Perhaps, I thought your complaint was not finding enough "4K" (not a term I like much). If it's about finding 1440p that'd mainly be because it's not a common broadcast format to the best of my knowledge - I just don't see it about much. Articles such as: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution don't mention it as a broadcast format, and articles that are specific to 1440p: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1440p https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1440p have it as : As a graphics display resolution between 1080p and 4K, Quad HD is regularly used in smartphone displays, and for computer and console gaming.
    - ffsm8 3y ago
      1440p isn't really available on official streaming platforms, so it is indeed a lot more rare. It's pretty much only available on original encodes, i.e. BluRay rips, this makes it a format that very rarely seen on currently airing shows, which are mostly webrips from official streaming platforms. You'll often see it alongside the usual resolutions for movies that have since been released on disk.
- the_real_sparky 3y ago
  I have a proposal for you: Take back the k from the marketers. Define: k = multiple of 1920x1080 pixel count 1920x1080 ~= 2M pixels = 1k 2560x1440 ~= 4M pixels = 2k 3840x2160 ~= 8M pixels = 4k So now 1440p = 2k, and k becomes meaningful. Problem solved! It also gives a solution for ultrawides like 7680 x 2160p, which are 8k. More interestingly, “8K” TVs now become 16k TVs, which marketers should like. We’ve come full circle! Now the k nomenclature also gives you an idea of how difficult that 16k display will be to drive with a video card relative to your existing monitor.
  - Karellen 3y ago
    > I have a proposal for you: Take back the k from the marketers. And how do you propose getting your definition out in front of more people than the combined marketers of all the legit sources of movie, TV and other streaming content in the world? lol Pick the battles you have a whelk's chance in a supernova of winning.
  - BlueTemplar 3y ago
    And now you also have to fight with the cinema/projector standard, where 4k is 4096x???. Not to mention that 3840x2160 already has a (mostly) separate term : UHD-1. There's also UHD-2 which is 4 times bigger, but I expect it to be renamed to something else soon enough.
  - Dylan16807 3y ago
    A number that scales with pixel count is even more markety. Pixel width or height is a much better metric for quality. But if you want to go down that path, instead of trying to redefine k just use megapixels.
offices 3y ago
>Why do you single out 2k? Read the second clause!

by ffsm8 3y ago

Dylan16807 3y ago

Rounding 1920 to 2k and 3840 to 4k is not too bad. And yes it's marketing to switch from height to width, but whatever. Rounding 2560 to 2k is massively confusing. Don't do it. 2.5k or don't use "k" at all. And when I go look at a couple torrent sites and scroll through movies and tv shows, I'm not seeing a single 1440p in the first couple pages. Some searches show barely anything at all.

defrost 3y ago
The first site I checked has 317 pages of 50x 2160p listings per page going back seven years. The most recent entry is: How To Train Your Dragon The Hidden World (2019) 2160p 4K BluRay 5 1-LAMA Format : HEVC Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 1 634 pixels Display aspect ratio : 2.35:1 Near the top is a recent TV episode: True Detective S04E04 Night Country Part 4 2160p MAX WEB-DL DDP5 1 DoVi x265-NTb Format : HEVC Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 1 920 pixels Display aspect ratio : 2.000 What makes things problematic is the overbearing love for letterbox like aspect ratios, even pirates have standards and they're having to bundle a slew of aspect ratios together .. this comes from the production companies.
- Dylan16807 3y ago
  I think you agree with me? You overwhelmingly see 1280x720, 1920x1080, and 3840x2160, sometimes with a truncated height because of aspect ratio but usually advertised with the full height for consistency reasons. There's barely any 2560x1440. Anyone going above 1080p goes directly to 4k. Youtube is pretty much the only place I've ever seen 1440p encodes, and that's because they're super version-happy and make 20 different variants of a video.
  - defrost 3y ago
    Perhaps, I thought your complaint was not finding enough "4K" (not a term I like much). If it's about finding 1440p that'd mainly be because it's not a common broadcast format to the best of my knowledge - I just don't see it about much. Articles such as: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution don't mention it as a broadcast format, and articles that are specific to 1440p: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1440p https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1440p have it as : As a graphics display resolution between 1080p and 4K, Quad HD is regularly used in smartphone displays, and for computer and console gaming.
  - ffsm8 3y ago
    1440p isn't really available on official streaming platforms, so it is indeed a lot more rare. It's pretty much only available on original encodes, i.e. BluRay rips, this makes it a format that very rarely seen on currently airing shows, which are mostly webrips from official streaming platforms. You'll often see it alongside the usual resolutions for movies that have since been released on disk.
the_real_sparky 3y ago
I have a proposal for you: Take back the k from the marketers. Define: k = multiple of 1920x1080 pixel count 1920x1080 ~= 2M pixels = 1k 2560x1440 ~= 4M pixels = 2k 3840x2160 ~= 8M pixels = 4k So now 1440p = 2k, and k becomes meaningful. Problem solved! It also gives a solution for ultrawides like 7680 x 2160p, which are 8k. More interestingly, “8K” TVs now become 16k TVs, which marketers should like. We’ve come full circle! Now the k nomenclature also gives you an idea of how difficult that 16k display will be to drive with a video card relative to your existing monitor.
- Karellen 3y ago
  > I have a proposal for you: Take back the k from the marketers. And how do you propose getting your definition out in front of more people than the combined marketers of all the legit sources of movie, TV and other streaming content in the world? lol Pick the battles you have a whelk's chance in a supernova of winning.
- BlueTemplar 3y ago
  And now you also have to fight with the cinema/projector standard, where 4k is 4096x???. Not to mention that 3840x2160 already has a (mostly) separate term : UHD-1. There's also UHD-2 which is 4 times bigger, but I expect it to be renamed to something else soon enough.
- Dylan16807 3y ago
  A number that scales with pixel count is even more markety. Pixel width or height is a much better metric for quality. But if you want to go down that path, instead of trying to redefine k just use megapixels.

offices 3y ago

>Why do you single out 2k? Read the second clause!