4 ms·

Note that Netflix and co. won't stream 4K at all to Linux devices, and they often don't serve 4K if they deem your internet connection to be too slow. For many

Note that Netflix and co. won't stream 4K at all to Linux devices, and they often don't serve 4K if they deem your internet connection to be too slow. For many folks, pirated 1080p is par with what they'd get streaming, and pirated 2k or 4k is better.

Dylan16807 3y ago
What do you mean by 2k? Because people should not call 2560x1440 2k, and I've never seen a download that size either.
- ffsm8 3y ago
  Why do you single out 2k? The term "4k" is just as wrong and purely marketing driven as well. The resolution that's usually behind 2k, which is 1440p as you've correctly pointed out, is usually available as torrents too.
  - Dylan16807 3y ago
    Rounding 1920 to 2k and 3840 to 4k is not too bad. And yes it's marketing to switch from height to width, but whatever. Rounding 2560 to 2k is massively confusing. Don't do it. 2.5k or don't use "k" at all. And when I go look at a couple torrent sites and scroll through movies and tv shows, I'm not seeing a single 1440p in the first couple pages. Some searches show barely anything at all.
    - defrost 3y ago
      The first site I checked has 317 pages of 50x 2160p listings per page going back seven years. The most recent entry is: How To Train Your Dragon The Hidden World (2019) 2160p 4K BluRay 5 1-LAMA Format : HEVC Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 1 634 pixels Display aspect ratio : 2.35:1 Near the top is a recent TV episode: True Detective S04E04 Night Country Part 4 2160p MAX WEB-DL DDP5 1 DoVi x265-NTb Format : HEVC Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 1 920 pixels Display aspect ratio : 2.000 What makes things problematic is the overbearing love for letterbox like aspect ratios, even pirates have standards and they're having to bundle a slew of aspect ratios together .. this comes from the production companies.
      - Dylan16807 3y ago
        I think you agree with me? You overwhelmingly see 1280x720, 1920x1080, and 3840x2160, sometimes with a truncated height because of aspect ratio but usually advertised with the full height for consistency reasons. There's barely any 2560x1440. Anyone going above 1080p goes directly to 4k. Youtube is pretty much the only place I've ever seen 1440p encodes, and that's because they're super version-happy and make 20 different variants of a video.
        defrost 3y ago
        Perhaps, I thought your complaint was not finding enough "4K" (not a term I like much). If it's about finding 1440p that'd mainly be because it's not a common broadcast format to the best of my knowledge - I just don't see it about much. Articles such as: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution don't mention it as a broadcast format, and articles that are specific to 1440p: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1440p https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1440p have it as : As a graphics display resolution between 1080p and 4K, Quad HD is regularly used in smartphone displays, and for computer and console gaming.
        ffsm8 3y ago
        1440p isn't really available on official streaming platforms, so it is indeed a lot more rare. It's pretty much only available on original encodes, i.e. BluRay rips, this makes it a format that very rarely seen on currently airing shows, which are mostly webrips from official streaming platforms. You'll often see it alongside the usual resolutions for movies that have since been released on disk.
    - the_real_sparky 3y ago
      I have a proposal for you: Take back the k from the marketers. Define: k = multiple of 1920x1080 pixel count 1920x1080 ~= 2M pixels = 1k 2560x1440 ~= 4M pixels = 2k 3840x2160 ~= 8M pixels = 4k So now 1440p = 2k, and k becomes meaningful. Problem solved! It also gives a solution for ultrawides like 7680 x 2160p, which are 8k. More interestingly, “8K” TVs now become 16k TVs, which marketers should like. We’ve come full circle! Now the k nomenclature also gives you an idea of how difficult that 16k display will be to drive with a video card relative to your existing monitor.
      - Karellen 3y ago
        > I have a proposal for you: Take back the k from the marketers. And how do you propose getting your definition out in front of more people than the combined marketers of all the legit sources of movie, TV and other streaming content in the world? lol Pick the battles you have a whelk's chance in a supernova of winning.
      - BlueTemplar 3y ago
        And now you also have to fight with the cinema/projector standard, where 4k is 4096x???. Not to mention that 3840x2160 already has a (mostly) separate term : UHD-1. There's also UHD-2 which is 4 times bigger, but I expect it to be renamed to something else soon enough.
      - Dylan16807 3y ago
        A number that scales with pixel count is even more markety. Pixel width or height is a much better metric for quality. But if you want to go down that path, instead of trying to redefine k just use megapixels.
  - offices 3y ago
    >Why do you single out 2k? Read the second clause!
y7 3y ago
Amazon Prime Video is even worse, on Linux they only serve 480p. Any pirated file is much better quality.
- andrepd 3y ago
  Lmao at paying for 2006-youtube quality video.
  - silon42 3y ago
    Still better than using some other OS.
    - account42 3y ago
      You can use torrent clients under Linux though.
- hateful 3y ago
  It's unwatchable. I'd cancel Prime because of it, if I didn't want the shipping. What is the real purpose of them limiting the stream? It can't be because of pirating. The movies and shows show up on the torrent sites BEFORE they even hit Amazon Prime. So who's going to "Record" it there? They are only hurting their customers.
- lobocinza 3y ago
  Exactly! As it is unwatchable it makes 0 sense to pay for the service. It is pirate or just do not watch it.
chmod775 3y ago
Do they even stream 1080p to Linux devices by default now? I always had to use a browser extension to make it do that[1]. However the extension seems to be gone.[2] [1] https://github.com/vladikoff/netflix-1080p-firefox?tab=readme-ov-file https://github.com/vladikoff/netflix-1080p-firefox?tab=readm... [2] https://github.com/vladikoff/netflix-1080p-firefox/issues/28 https://github.com/vladikoff/netflix-1080p-firefox/issues/28
- dijit 3y ago
  720p for Linux. https://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/16yf3wi/why_does_linux_limit_netlix_videos_to_720p/ https://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/16yf3wi/why_do...
  - andrepd 3y ago
    Lol. Why should I pay for aggressively hostile software that requires me to install spyware on my machine for the privilege of watching throttled content? No thanks, I'll download an mkv and watch it when I want, where I want, online or offline. I could do so with DVD and blu-ray. You don't want to let me do so via the internet? Okay, I'll do it anyways.
mkl 3y ago
1080p = 2k; both are 1920x1080p. p is rows in the vertical dimension (p for progressive, as opposed to i for interlaced; e.g. NZ terrestrial TV is 1080i). k is columns in the horizontal direction, and comes from film making and visual effects (1920 rounds up to 2k and 3840 rounds up to 4k).
- quenix 3y ago
  Wow, I thought K stood for thousand (as in 4K=4,000)! Nice piece of trivia if true.
  - mkl 3y ago
    Yes, k stands for thousand. Historically, 4k meant 4096 pixels wide in the context of digitised film or digital visual effects, and 2k meant 2048 pixels wide. TVs ended up 1920 pixels wide, which is "close enough" to use the same term, 2k. I think "4k" is used for marketing TVs as it's easier to remember and say than "2160p", so now we mix the terminology.
    - deleted 3y ago
      [deleted]
    - King1st 3y ago
      Its a loophole. UHD4k is what tv advertiser used to dilute meaning and not get sued. I believe the definition has been diluted to the point 4k is expected to be UHD.
- j1elo 3y ago
  Most relevant for anyone who also had this confusion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution#2160p_resolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution#2160p_resolution
- hateful 3y ago
  When looking for a monitor: > 1k = 1920x1080 > 2k = 2560x1440 > 4k = 3840x2160 [even though it's not usually referred to as 1k, but rather 1080p directly]

Dylan16807 3y ago

What do you mean by 2k? Because people should not call 2560x1440 2k, and I've never seen a download that size either.

ffsm8 3y ago
Why do you single out 2k? The term "4k" is just as wrong and purely marketing driven as well. The resolution that's usually behind 2k, which is 1440p as you've correctly pointed out, is usually available as torrents too.
- Dylan16807 3y ago
  Rounding 1920 to 2k and 3840 to 4k is not too bad. And yes it's marketing to switch from height to width, but whatever. Rounding 2560 to 2k is massively confusing. Don't do it. 2.5k or don't use "k" at all. And when I go look at a couple torrent sites and scroll through movies and tv shows, I'm not seeing a single 1440p in the first couple pages. Some searches show barely anything at all.
  - defrost 3y ago
    The first site I checked has 317 pages of 50x 2160p listings per page going back seven years. The most recent entry is: How To Train Your Dragon The Hidden World (2019) 2160p 4K BluRay 5 1-LAMA Format : HEVC Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 1 634 pixels Display aspect ratio : 2.35:1 Near the top is a recent TV episode: True Detective S04E04 Night Country Part 4 2160p MAX WEB-DL DDP5 1 DoVi x265-NTb Format : HEVC Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 1 920 pixels Display aspect ratio : 2.000 What makes things problematic is the overbearing love for letterbox like aspect ratios, even pirates have standards and they're having to bundle a slew of aspect ratios together .. this comes from the production companies.
    - Dylan16807 3y ago
      I think you agree with me? You overwhelmingly see 1280x720, 1920x1080, and 3840x2160, sometimes with a truncated height because of aspect ratio but usually advertised with the full height for consistency reasons. There's barely any 2560x1440. Anyone going above 1080p goes directly to 4k. Youtube is pretty much the only place I've ever seen 1440p encodes, and that's because they're super version-happy and make 20 different variants of a video.
      - defrost 3y ago
        Perhaps, I thought your complaint was not finding enough "4K" (not a term I like much). If it's about finding 1440p that'd mainly be because it's not a common broadcast format to the best of my knowledge - I just don't see it about much. Articles such as: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution don't mention it as a broadcast format, and articles that are specific to 1440p: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1440p https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1440p have it as : As a graphics display resolution between 1080p and 4K, Quad HD is regularly used in smartphone displays, and for computer and console gaming.
      - ffsm8 3y ago
        1440p isn't really available on official streaming platforms, so it is indeed a lot more rare. It's pretty much only available on original encodes, i.e. BluRay rips, this makes it a format that very rarely seen on currently airing shows, which are mostly webrips from official streaming platforms. You'll often see it alongside the usual resolutions for movies that have since been released on disk.
  - the_real_sparky 3y ago
    I have a proposal for you: Take back the k from the marketers. Define: k = multiple of 1920x1080 pixel count 1920x1080 ~= 2M pixels = 1k 2560x1440 ~= 4M pixels = 2k 3840x2160 ~= 8M pixels = 4k So now 1440p = 2k, and k becomes meaningful. Problem solved! It also gives a solution for ultrawides like 7680 x 2160p, which are 8k. More interestingly, “8K” TVs now become 16k TVs, which marketers should like. We’ve come full circle! Now the k nomenclature also gives you an idea of how difficult that 16k display will be to drive with a video card relative to your existing monitor.
    - Karellen 3y ago
      > I have a proposal for you: Take back the k from the marketers. And how do you propose getting your definition out in front of more people than the combined marketers of all the legit sources of movie, TV and other streaming content in the world? lol Pick the battles you have a whelk's chance in a supernova of winning.
    - BlueTemplar 3y ago
      And now you also have to fight with the cinema/projector standard, where 4k is 4096x???. Not to mention that 3840x2160 already has a (mostly) separate term : UHD-1. There's also UHD-2 which is 4 times bigger, but I expect it to be renamed to something else soon enough.
    - Dylan16807 3y ago
      A number that scales with pixel count is even more markety. Pixel width or height is a much better metric for quality. But if you want to go down that path, instead of trying to redefine k just use megapixels.
- offices 3y ago
  >Why do you single out 2k? Read the second clause!

y7 3y ago

Amazon Prime Video is even worse, on Linux they only serve 480p. Any pirated file is much better quality.

andrepd 3y ago
Lmao at paying for 2006-youtube quality video.
- silon42 3y ago
  Still better than using some other OS.
  - account42 3y ago
    You can use torrent clients under Linux though.
hateful 3y ago
It's unwatchable. I'd cancel Prime because of it, if I didn't want the shipping. What is the real purpose of them limiting the stream? It can't be because of pirating. The movies and shows show up on the torrent sites BEFORE they even hit Amazon Prime. So who's going to "Record" it there? They are only hurting their customers.
lobocinza 3y ago
Exactly! As it is unwatchable it makes 0 sense to pay for the service. It is pirate or just do not watch it.

chmod775 3y ago

Do they even stream 1080p to Linux devices by default now? I always had to use a browser extension to make it do that[1]. However the extension seems to be gone.[2] [1] https://github.com/vladikoff/netflix-1080p-firefox?tab=readme-ov-file https://github.com/vladikoff/netflix-1080p-firefox?tab=readm... [2] https://github.com/vladikoff/netflix-1080p-firefox/issues/28 https://github.com/vladikoff/netflix-1080p-firefox/issues/28

dijit 3y ago
720p for Linux. https://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/16yf3wi/why_does_linux_limit_netlix_videos_to_720p/ https://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/16yf3wi/why_do...
- andrepd 3y ago
  Lol. Why should I pay for aggressively hostile software that requires me to install spyware on my machine for the privilege of watching throttled content? No thanks, I'll download an mkv and watch it when I want, where I want, online or offline. I could do so with DVD and blu-ray. You don't want to let me do so via the internet? Okay, I'll do it anyways.

mkl 3y ago

1080p = 2k; both are 1920x1080p. p is rows in the vertical dimension (p for progressive, as opposed to i for interlaced; e.g. NZ terrestrial TV is 1080i). k is columns in the horizontal direction, and comes from film making and visual effects (1920 rounds up to 2k and 3840 rounds up to 4k).

quenix 3y ago
Wow, I thought K stood for thousand (as in 4K=4,000)! Nice piece of trivia if true.
- mkl 3y ago
  Yes, k stands for thousand. Historically, 4k meant 4096 pixels wide in the context of digitised film or digital visual effects, and 2k meant 2048 pixels wide. TVs ended up 1920 pixels wide, which is "close enough" to use the same term, 2k. I think "4k" is used for marketing TVs as it's easier to remember and say than "2160p", so now we mix the terminology.
  - deleted 3y ago
    [deleted]
  - King1st 3y ago
    Its a loophole. UHD4k is what tv advertiser used to dilute meaning and not get sued. I believe the definition has been diluted to the point 4k is expected to be UHD.
j1elo 3y ago
Most relevant for anyone who also had this confusion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution#2160p_resolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution#2160p_resolution
hateful 3y ago
When looking for a monitor: > 1k = 1920x1080 > 2k = 2560x1440 > 4k = 3840x2160 [even though it's not usually referred to as 1k, but rather 1080p directly]