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YouTube Says It Has More Than 100M Premium and Music Subscribers
- beej71 3y agoIt'll be one fewer when my subscription runs out! But I guess at 100M adding a -1 doesn't really do much. Sounds like Google will be fine. I put all that money into Patreon and other donations.
- ijhuygft776 3y agoWhy should someone pay for Youtube music when all songs are basically already free?
- colesantiago 3y agodon't underestimate how many customers don't know this and prefer convenience instead.
- paxys 3y agoSongs are free but not ad-free.
- jncfhnb 3y agoThey are with an ad blocker
- al_borland 3y agoI have YouTube Premium because I want ad free videos, and 90% of my YouTube views are done on an AppleTV. With that, YouTube Music comes bundled. I don’t care about YouTube Music, I think I tried it one time for about 10 minutes. If I could get ad free YouTube without the music service for less money, I do that in a heartbeat.
- ijhuygft776 3y ago> I have YouTube Premium because I want ad free videos Does it block sponsored content too? With extensions, you can block both ads and sponsored content. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sponsorblock/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sponsorblock/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin...
- pdxpatzer 3y agono. YouTube Premium does not block sponsored content.
- al_borland 3y agoJust ads, not sponsored content, but those extensions you speak of aren't a thing on the AppleTV. I can see were the popular parts of the video are, usually just going to the next spike will be the end of the sponsored segment. I haven't found it to be a big deal. The ads, that abruptly interrupt the video, and make you wait for several seconds before you can skip (if you can skip at all) are the things that bug me the most. Sponsorship are minor in comparison. Plus, the better YouTubers will work it into their content, so I may not want to skip it.
- pdxpatzer 3y agoditto for me. word for word.
- wdfx 3y agoHow have I only just found out that yt premium includes yt music? I've been subscribed to yt music for years but not yt itself. And nowadays I do watch more content on yt than listen on yt music. So it turns out yt premium is pretty much the same price and I can keep using yt music and I now also have no ads on yt itself. That's the easiest upgrade I've ever made.
- bdcravens 3y agoI pay for both Spotify and YouTube Premium. I'd love it if I could save money with just YT (which I mostly get to watch things like tutorials without commercials, and my wife watches a ton of vlogs), but it lacks a few things I use (like the ability for our Echo devices to "play {song}" via voice)
- Suppafly 3y agoI'm surprised it doesn't work with Echo devices, you'd think someone would have made a program that fixes it. It works fine with google devices, although it's algorithm sometimes pulls up playlists instead of individual songs, or songs that contain a lyric with the song you specified instead of a less popular song that is actually named what you specified, if you aren't specific.
- mrweasel 3y agoYouTube ran a "YouTube Premium without Music" deal in Denmark for about a year. You couldn't "downgrade" to it, nor did they really promote it in any way. In the end they just went "Well, guess no one wants that" and cancelled the program. It was basically impossible to buy, of cause it failed. I would have preferred Apple Music, or some other service, because the YouTube Music interface is apparently heavily inspired by Snapchat and impossible to navigate. But given the racket Google runs, I'll just live with YouTube Music, because I'm not paying for two music services.
- al_borland 3y agoThis is disappointing to hear. I remember reading about that deal and was excited for it to be available to me. I pay for Apple Music. It annoys me that I pay for two services, but I really didn't like YouTube Music in my brief interaction with it. If I want to get down to 1 music service, I think I'd sooner drop YouTube Premium. I've been thinking about doing that just to stop me from going down so many rabbit holes on that site. I waste way too much time there.
- wdfx 3y agoNothing is free. If you enjoy the hard worked output of musicians then you really should contribute something back to the system which supports them and allows the delivery of their creativity to your ears.
- whatshisface 3y agoA good way to do that is through donations.
- _chu1 3y agoHow do you donate to a 80's hair metal band?
- whatshisface 3y agoIf someone isn't around to collect the proceeds of their work anymore, it should go into the public domain.
- ijhuygft776 3y agoI guess it's not free, I use electricity, electronics, etc...
- bdcravens 3y agoYoutube pays 2/10th of a penny (on average) per stream to artists (and most platforms pay more) https://virpp.com/hello/music-streaming-payouts-comparison-a-guide-for-musicians/ https://virpp.com/hello/music-streaming-payouts-comparison-a...
- wdfx 3y agoI expected this reply and it's good to debate the fairness of platforms towards artists, but I don't really want to get into that. My point is that if you're freeloading music then the artist gets precisely 0.00 which is less even than the worst platform.
- dharmab 3y agoWithout YouTube Music you get ads and the apps will pause if you turn off the screen. There are ways around this (eg Orion on iOS) but if you're getting premium anyway you get Music bundled.
- ijhuygft776 3y agoIf you don't want Firefox to pause the video when you turn off the screen, just switch to desktop mode. Also... you should use something like Newpipe instead...
- dharmab 3y agoFirefox on iOS is pretty lame. No ad blocker and no extensions.
- ijhuygft776 3y agoDesktop mode on Android's Firefox doesn't require extension... if it's not available on I-Phone, it might be soon because I think that they are starting to allow alternate browser engines.
- shiroiuma 3y agoSounds like a great reason to not use iOS.
- dharmab 3y agoNah, Orion for iOS works great with built-in ad blocking and Firefox+Chrome extensions support, and the satellite SOS helps my family with peace of mind (I had to be helicoptered out of Nevada a few years ago). It's is way less bulky and less expensive than the inReach I used to carry.
- Suppafly 3y agoIt's funny, the videos continuing to play when the screen is off, is actually a non-feature for me most of the time because it makes using the back button to get away from a video link you clicked on impossible, you end up having to click back 2-3x and then still hit the x on the little embedded video. The music is already a separate app, they should allow you to disable the background play in the normal app and have it enabled on the music app. Which maybe they do now that I think about it, but I believe when I had checked previously it was a universal setting tied to your google account, not the apps.
- reportgunner 3y agoThey think Youtube is going bankrupt
- elektor 3y agoThey've added more than 20 million subscribers since their last update in Nov 2022. It looks like their war on ad-blockers is paying off.
- rightbyte 3y agoI still don't get any ads. More like, Google's effort to corner the "Smart TV" market is paying off, where there are no adblockers and the system is locked down.
- ghoomketu 3y agoYouTube premium in India costs about 129rs / mo ($1.5) with a three month free trial and has no ads and free youtube music. I think it may be more expensive in US.
- naavis 3y agoHere in Europe it is €11.99, so about 13 dollars a month.
- dharmab 3y agoNot all of Europe! It's about 3 USD in Ukraine, for example.
- naavis 3y agoInteresting, I assumed the prices would be the same or at least roughly the same in whole of Europe! My price was in Finland.
- RedlineTriad 3y agoAnd 15,90 CHF (18.56 USD) in Switzerland (for one person). Steam and other digital service providers always have really high, or the highest prices in Switzerland.
- karim79 3y agoGood lord, my price is €12.99 /month (Germany). I guess that's what Google calculates as the purchasing power parity exchange rate, but credit to them, at least they're taking that into consideration.
- shiftpgdn 3y agoI pay $23/USD/mo for the family version in the US.
- hiAndrewQuinn 3y agoI feel like that's fine, honestly. They've probably done the math and found it's better to sell YouTube Premium for a dollar in India and get a bunch of Indians on the service than to charge $25 or whatever everywhere and end up getting almost nobody over there.
- glonq 3y agoi tried to subscribe to the family plan, but YT says that we can't because we have google workspace accounts. ...so back to blocking ads, i guess...
- mrweasel 3y agoWe ran into that as well, it's such a weird restriction, because I can sign in to YouTube with a workspace account perfectly fine.
- e40 3y agoIncredibly annoying. I have Google Fi and a year of free YTP, which I attached to a free gmail account, which is not fun because I have all my subs and history on the workspace account... and there's no way to transfer subs/history. There are projects to do it but they are 1) old and 2) work by "watching" all the videos! Crazy. It's clear Google allows export of user's YT data only to satisfy some checkbox somewhere. It's not at all useful.
- Ferret7446 3y agoWorkspace is for corporate/enterprise not consumer, so it makes sense to not allow family plans.
- gareim 3y agoYears ago, it was just called Google Apps and was for bringing your own domain. It was even advertised as something that would be good for family usage. And in the legacy GSuite migration debacle a couple years back, they acknowledged that there are legacy users that were/are using it for families and that it would continue to be free (after months of uncertainty). I have considered paying for YouTube Premium for the family, but I can't unless I create dual identities for all my family members and have them use both accounts on all their devices.
- nunez 3y agoIt is NOW, not when many of us created these accounts ages ago. (We were paying customers back then too!) Back then, you paid Google to use your own domain and to unsubscribe to data collection, I think.
- nightski 3y agoYouTube is outrageously expensive relative to other streaming services, especially considering it does no content production itself. I'm honestly rather surprised that many people pay their full price. For my wife and I it would be $23/mo.
- pphysch 3y agoYouTube does pay some content creators some amount of money, and doesn't enforce draconian policies around cross promotion of Patreon or other competing paid content platforms. I would pay for YouTube over Netflix/HBO/Hulu/Disney/Spotify/etc. More value.
- dmonitor 3y agoyoutube funds content production they sign streamers (and probably channels) with exclusivity contracts that are worth millions. they will give ad money to anyone that uploads content that meets advertiser criteria. they fund Mr. Beast's million dollar videos even if they aren't doing it from the traditional means of budgeting a project before it is released. they tried their hand at the traditional route funding original TV shows and such, but it didn't really pan out how they liked. all things considered, they probably spend far more on content production than any other platform.
- rospaya 3y ago> all things considered, they probably spend far more on content production than any other platform. And honestly half of it is a cesspool. I may be subjective, but then again I'm not the target audience for Mr Beast or any other similar Youtuber or streamer or whatever.
- pphysch 3y agoIs that not also true for other streaming platforms? There's a ton of low-budget junk on the biggest streaming platforms.
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- pphysch 3y agoYouTube Premium is weird because most people have the idea that YouTube should have "free", yet YouTube's content library is vastly superior to any single streaming platform in terms of breadth/freshness.
- tremarley 3y agoYouTube Premium costs more than Amazon Prime & Netflix. But YouTube does not create any content, and you only get YouTube music as a perk
- pphysch 3y agoNetflix and Amazon are playing a different game than YouTube. They are playing the "we own (exclusive) rights to this or that content and sell access to it" game, which YouTube is not necessarily. The former platforms also didn't start out with their own production companies, but eventually needed them in order to synthesize more exclusive content. YouTube does not have a content quantity problem, if anything it has too much content which makes discoverability challenging (vs. the curated libraries of Netflix et al.)
- bdcravens 3y agoI probably spend more time watching Youtube each month than other platforms, and my wife watches a ton of vlogs. Perhaps we are atypical, but in our case, Premium is a good value.
- burnte 3y agoI subscribe to all three and YTPremium is not more expensive than either. USA user.
- e12e 3y ago> YouTube Premium costs more than Amazon Prime & Netflix. In Norway: Yt premium 119nok/m Amazon prime 14.99 usd ~ 156nok/m (listed as "plus tax, which would be another 25% vat - but I don't think that's right) Netflix 720p 89nok/m Netflix 1080p 109nok/m Proper Netflix 159nok/m So... No?
- tremarley 3y agoWhere I live, YouTube premium costs €5 more than Prime & Netflix
- pests 3y agoYouTube creates content in the sense people upload videos with the sole intention of the royalties payment. Of which I believe they give back nearly half of adrev to. Without those payments many creators would not exist.
- jeffbee 3y agoOne of the little-noticed features of YouTube Premium is is comes with a rotating library of studio films that are available for free. I didn't realize this for years until recently when I wanted to watch Iron Giant, and it popped up as being on YouTube. These are "free with ads" to signed out users or non-subscribers, but for subscribers there are no ads. The catalog is pretty small but changes frequently and it's a decent perk.
- coldpie 3y agoAre these surfaced someplace in the app or on the website? I just poked around the app a bit and didn't find them.
- jeffbee 3y agoThey are really buried! The only reason I noticed it is that Google's search page for films shows streaming services where the film is available, and in this case it said it was on YouTube for free, which is unusual. On the web, they are here https://www.youtube.com/feed/storefront?bp=ogUCKAY%3D https://www.youtube.com/feed/storefront?bp=ogUCKAY%3D
- ProfessorLayton 3y agoYoutube is my most used streaming service, and I really like supporting creators in really niche interests. I'd cancel all other streaming services before YT premium. I do wish their TV app wasn't a steaming pile of trash though.
- maxbond 3y agoAt one point I was explaining to a friend what they had done "wrong" when trying to use the YouTube TV app, walking them through a bug involving multiple UI steps and how I worked around it. Stepping back for a moment and assessing how much expertise I had developed in a skill that shouldn't exist, I realized I needed to get rid of my "smart" TV. I haven't had a TV in my house in years now.
- Suppafly 3y agoI use the app on my xbox, if you have a game system that might be a better option than the one supplied with the tv.
- Digory 3y agoBoth come with Google Fi, the cell service. Which has probably kept me from comparison price shopping cell service quite so hard.
- emddudley 3y agoThat sounded like an amazing deal, but it's a promotion. Google Fi offers 1 free year of YouTube Premium if you have an Unlimited Plus plan for a year.
- e40 3y agoExactly this. And if you have a Google Fi family plan it's per user.
- Suppafly 3y agoI wish that were true for all customers. I've had Fi forever and the only thing I get are good deals on phones every so often.
- bllguo 3y agofor the price of a music streaming service, you get a music streaming service _and_ ad-free video. it's a fine deal even if YT music is not as good as alternatives. and you're putting your money where your mouth is regarding ads and internet monetization.