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> The only major hurdle to this is Apple continuing to treat web apps as second class citizens on iOS If you add a site to iOS' homescreen it automatically bec

> The only major hurdle to this is Apple continuing to treat web apps as second class citizens on iOS If you add a site to iOS' homescreen it automatically becomes a PWA. The best example I found of a site fully leveraging this feature is Cryptee[0]. They talk about the PWA thing here: https://crypt.ee/download https://crypt.ee/download [0] https://crypt.ee/ https://crypt.ee/

throwitaway1123 3y ago
The whole add to home screen process is needlessly convoluted. It would be nice if there was something similar to Smart Banners for PWAs: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/webkit/promoting_apps_with_smart_app_banners https://developer.apple.com/documentation/webkit/promoting_a...
- ezfe 3y ago
  You just click "Share -> Add To Home Screen." I understand that that's technically more clicks than a smart banner but hardly "convoluted"
  - throwitaway1123 3y ago
    I think it's convoluted relative to a Smart Banner. Smart Banners give users a clear call to action, and they're not buried in a menu somewhere. It's hard to make this point without linking to a screenshot, but the share menu is incredibly bloated. To get to the add to home screen button a user has to know it's in the share menu (which is just an unlabeled icon), and then scroll past the following menu items: - An options button (which leads to another menu) - Air Drop - Share via text message (with several different contacts listed individually to share with) - Copy - Add to Reading List - Add Bookmark - Add to Favorites - Add to Quick Note - Find on Page
  - oh_sigh 3y ago
    Adding to your own home screen under a "share" menu is something probably 90% of users would never think of.
dangerlibrary 3y ago
Fastmail does this too, and it works extremely well.
woahitsraj 3y ago
I agree it's MUCH better than it used to be (and huge credit to Jen Simmons and her team for making this possible). However Safari APIs are still WAY behind Chrome/Android and I think this is probably intentional to push developers into using the App Store so Apple can collect their 30% tax https://fugu-tracker.web.app/ https://fugu-tracker.web.app/
- willsmith72 3y ago
  It's absolutely intentional, but going to slowly get better even as they drag their feet
  - bsaul 3y ago
    i wonder when someone is going to sue apple over this absurd limit. There's 0 justification for it, it's almost the definition of racket.

throwitaway1123 3y ago

The whole add to home screen process is needlessly convoluted. It would be nice if there was something similar to Smart Banners for PWAs: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/webkit/promoting_apps_with_smart_app_banners https://developer.apple.com/documentation/webkit/promoting_a...

ezfe 3y ago
You just click "Share -> Add To Home Screen." I understand that that's technically more clicks than a smart banner but hardly "convoluted"
- throwitaway1123 3y ago
  I think it's convoluted relative to a Smart Banner. Smart Banners give users a clear call to action, and they're not buried in a menu somewhere. It's hard to make this point without linking to a screenshot, but the share menu is incredibly bloated. To get to the add to home screen button a user has to know it's in the share menu (which is just an unlabeled icon), and then scroll past the following menu items: - An options button (which leads to another menu) - Air Drop - Share via text message (with several different contacts listed individually to share with) - Copy - Add to Reading List - Add Bookmark - Add to Favorites - Add to Quick Note - Find on Page
- oh_sigh 3y ago
  Adding to your own home screen under a "share" menu is something probably 90% of users would never think of.

dangerlibrary 3y ago

Fastmail does this too, and it works extremely well.

woahitsraj 3y ago

I agree it's MUCH better than it used to be (and huge credit to Jen Simmons and her team for making this possible). However Safari APIs are still WAY behind Chrome/Android and I think this is probably intentional to push developers into using the App Store so Apple can collect their 30% tax https://fugu-tracker.web.app/ https://fugu-tracker.web.app/

willsmith72 3y ago
It's absolutely intentional, but going to slowly get better even as they drag their feet
- bsaul 3y ago
  i wonder when someone is going to sue apple over this absurd limit. There's 0 justification for it, it's almost the definition of racket.