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I live in the south of france, and I really need to move to a cooler region in france. Summer are very long, nights are hot, makes it hard to sleep well. I don

by jokoon 3y ago

I live in the south of france, and I really need to move to a cooler region in france. Summer are very long, nights are hot, makes it hard to sleep well. I don't have enough money to install AC. Mobile AC is too noisy. I have been postponing for 4 years now. I am reading The Ministry Of The Future, it's a great book. India will be the first to suffer from this.

Qem 3y ago
> Summer are very long, nights are hot, makes it hard to sleep well. I don't have enough money to install AC. Mobile AC is too noisy. Did you try sleeping in hammocks already? It's a solution that works reasonably well for me.
- sgt 3y ago
  Hammocks - the poor man's AC?
  - Qem 3y ago
    Yes. Works very well in hot climate. Doesn't heat up like a mattress, and is thin enough that the airflow from a fan in the room can help cool both topside and underside at the same time. But beware it may take some time to get used sleeping in it. When installing the hooks to set it up in the walls, the separation between them must be large enough such as the person is not too bended while sleeping, otherwise you may get back pain in the morning. The best position to sleep is semi-crossed in relation to the axis between hooks (~45 degrees), that allows you to lie almost straight.
  - graphe 3y ago
    It's the fan after the shower for me.
badpun 3y ago
AC could be cheaper than the cost of a move, not to mention you wouldn't have to uproot your life?
pvaldes 3y ago
If you live in a rural area without too much noise, soak a sheet, hang it in front of the open window before to go to bed. Put a bucket or something below to save the water drops from ending in the soil. Enjoy the cooling effect of the evaporation
pk-protect-ai 3y ago
Madagascar and lot of countries in Africa already suffering. https://reliefweb.int/disaster/dr-2018-000141-mdg https://reliefweb.int/disaster/dr-2018-000141-mdg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp_UaZMeyCs&t=3s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp_UaZMeyCs&t=3s
tticvs 3y ago
KSR is a good prose writer but I found The Ministry of the Future to be full of extremely unconvincing scenarios and I don't think you should let it inform your worldview. It's just a story written by someone who does not really know what they're talking about.
- gonzo41 3y ago
  The Ministry of the Future. Chapter 1. is super accurate. That will happen in our lifetime. Learn about wetbulb temperatures.
  - tticvs 3y ago
    No it is not "super accurate" it's a dramatic fictionalization designed to get you emotionally hooked into the book and convey the author's message. It's indistinguishable from propaganda.
- jokoon 3y ago
  actually KSR writes hard scifi, so he does do his research before writing
  - nradov 3y ago
    Actually it turns out that doing "research" doesn't help much in making long-term predictions about how human societies will react to novel events.
NotYourLawyer 3y ago
Just finished that book myself and couldn’t disagree more. Ministry for the Future is an authoritarian’s wet dream mixed with a bunch of extremely implausible stuff, told in a style that’s as unengaging as possible.
polar8 3y ago
Which part? I'm moving to Nice soon and wondering how it will be. Many of my friends still don't have AC.
- tim333 3y ago
  Nice isn't as bad as some inland places as the hot air rises and pulls in cooler air from the sea.
sumek83 3y ago
We need passive building cooling like: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0306261922006729 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S03062... AC won't scale
kobalsky 3y ago
how much does installing an AC cost there?
tim333 3y ago
Actual aircon units are quite cheap these days eg this 480 euro https://www.amazon.fr/KLARSTEIN-Windwaker-Smart-Split-Climatiseur/dp/B07QMT4FV8/ref=sr_1_7 https://www.amazon.fr/KLARSTEIN-Windwaker-Smart-Split-Climat... Not sure about the installation. Maybe you could DIY? I was thinking of it in London and imagine the installation will be more than the units. One thing I can't work out is if something like that - a heat/cool aircon unit counts as a heat pump from the point of view of getting a government grant?
marbartolome 3y ago
I live in the south of spain, and AC is already a necessity in the summer. Days with 40° and nights with 30° are becoming increasingly common. Also the water comes out of the tap at like 35-38°, unheated. I've had plants die when watering them with this. At this rate I'm going to have to install some sort of water cooler too.

by jokoon 3y ago

Qem 3y ago

> Summer are very long, nights are hot, makes it hard to sleep well. I don't have enough money to install AC. Mobile AC is too noisy. Did you try sleeping in hammocks already? It's a solution that works reasonably well for me.

sgt 3y ago
Hammocks - the poor man's AC?
- Qem 3y ago
  Yes. Works very well in hot climate. Doesn't heat up like a mattress, and is thin enough that the airflow from a fan in the room can help cool both topside and underside at the same time. But beware it may take some time to get used sleeping in it. When installing the hooks to set it up in the walls, the separation between them must be large enough such as the person is not too bended while sleeping, otherwise you may get back pain in the morning. The best position to sleep is semi-crossed in relation to the axis between hooks (~45 degrees), that allows you to lie almost straight.
- graphe 3y ago
  It's the fan after the shower for me.

badpun 3y ago

AC could be cheaper than the cost of a move, not to mention you wouldn't have to uproot your life?

pvaldes 3y ago

If you live in a rural area without too much noise, soak a sheet, hang it in front of the open window before to go to bed. Put a bucket or something below to save the water drops from ending in the soil. Enjoy the cooling effect of the evaporation

pk-protect-ai 3y ago

Madagascar and lot of countries in Africa already suffering. https://reliefweb.int/disaster/dr-2018-000141-mdg https://reliefweb.int/disaster/dr-2018-000141-mdg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp_UaZMeyCs&t=3s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp_UaZMeyCs&t=3s

tticvs 3y ago

KSR is a good prose writer but I found The Ministry of the Future to be full of extremely unconvincing scenarios and I don't think you should let it inform your worldview. It's just a story written by someone who does not really know what they're talking about.

gonzo41 3y ago
The Ministry of the Future. Chapter 1. is super accurate. That will happen in our lifetime. Learn about wetbulb temperatures.
- tticvs 3y ago
  No it is not "super accurate" it's a dramatic fictionalization designed to get you emotionally hooked into the book and convey the author's message. It's indistinguishable from propaganda.
jokoon 3y ago
actually KSR writes hard scifi, so he does do his research before writing
- nradov 3y ago
  Actually it turns out that doing "research" doesn't help much in making long-term predictions about how human societies will react to novel events.

NotYourLawyer 3y ago

Just finished that book myself and couldn’t disagree more. Ministry for the Future is an authoritarian’s wet dream mixed with a bunch of extremely implausible stuff, told in a style that’s as unengaging as possible.

polar8 3y ago

Which part? I'm moving to Nice soon and wondering how it will be. Many of my friends still don't have AC.

tim333 3y ago
Nice isn't as bad as some inland places as the hot air rises and pulls in cooler air from the sea.

sumek83 3y ago

We need passive building cooling like: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0306261922006729 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S03062... AC won't scale

kobalsky 3y ago

how much does installing an AC cost there?

tim333 3y ago

Actual aircon units are quite cheap these days eg this 480 euro https://www.amazon.fr/KLARSTEIN-Windwaker-Smart-Split-Climatiseur/dp/B07QMT4FV8/ref=sr_1_7 https://www.amazon.fr/KLARSTEIN-Windwaker-Smart-Split-Climat... Not sure about the installation. Maybe you could DIY? I was thinking of it in London and imagine the installation will be more than the units. One thing I can't work out is if something like that - a heat/cool aircon unit counts as a heat pump from the point of view of getting a government grant?

marbartolome 3y ago

I live in the south of spain, and AC is already a necessity in the summer. Days with 40° and nights with 30° are becoming increasingly common. Also the water comes out of the tap at like 35-38°, unheated. I've had plants die when watering them with this. At this rate I'm going to have to install some sort of water cooler too.