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It's going to suck for a while, but eventually, it will be one more thing we can thank the EU for. Universal chargers, informed tracking consent, separation of
by BiteCode_dev 3y ago
It's going to suck for a while, but eventually, it will be one more thing we can thank the EU for.
Universal chargers, informed tracking consent, separation of accounts...
US and EU balance each other pretty well.
- declan_roberts 3y ago[flagged]
- skeletal88 3y ago"I reject everything non essential" Has to be as easily clickable as the "accept all" button, otherwise sites are not compliant
- kansface 3y agoWe judge law by effect, not intent, because only it is real.
- orwin 3y agoBy effect, i can quick judge a website by its cookie banner. When i'm looking for quality content (most of the time), i know immediately if i've been clickbaited by my google search.
- BiteCode_dev 3y agoWe also judge humans depending on how they follow the law. Turns out you chose not prioritize judging the humans that run those billion dollars companies.
- Minor49er 3y agoI just adblock those like i do for every other popup
- robinsonb5 3y agoThere's just one unintended benefit: when I'm looking for in-depth information on a subject, I've found that the presence of a cookie popup seems to correlate with a site containing only superficial information; it's an indicator that the site's primary purpose is harvesting eyeballs rather than imparting knowledge, so I should keep looking.
- palata 3y agoThere are browser extensions like "I don't care about cookies" who click "reject all" before you even see the popup, on every single website. Works really well for me.
- BiteCode_dev 3y agoYes we are: we know now which companies that are assholes instead of it being a secret. We know: - the ones that track you - the ones that track you and use a cookie banner but no allow DNT, annoying you for no good reason - the ones that track you and use a dark pattern That's a good way to avoid their product. Let the bastards self identify loud and clear. Have you noticed that HN doesn't have a cookie banner?
- nonethewiser 3y ago> informed tracking consent In theory I think people would thank the EU for this, but in practice people generally dislike the new cookie banner status quo. We can quibble about whether the legislation necessarily dictates the shitty scenario we find ourselves in, but its the scenario it did lead to nonetheless.
- ceejayoz 3y agoThe cookie banner status quo is malicious compliance by the tracking industry that the EU should come down hard on. In many cases they violate the GDPR by not giving accept and reject equal billing.
- ChadNauseam 3y agoIs it malicious compliance? How else were they supposed to comply?
- marginalia_nu 3y agoYou don't need to ask consent for data processing that is needed for operating a service, just stuff like user tracking.
- wharvle 3y agoUse a much-less-intrusive notification, and just use “necessary” cookies unless the user engages with the notification to say “yes, track me”. Or drop the unnecessary ones.
- joshspankit 3y agoAnyone else think “necessary cookies” should only be asked when do you something that actually requires them (such as on the login screen)?
- wharvle 3y ago
- Powdering7082 3y agoYeah not sure that informed tracking consent was actually good. I do love GDPR's ability to download your data, but I am unsure of how much actual good that's done. Universal chargers is great!
- floydnoel 3y agoWell, perhaps you'll thank the EU for it. I personally hate the cookie banners (that don’t do anything to stop ad tech) and the annoyance of needing new (expensive) cables for no real reason. I had very nice cables which worked great for years, that was fun to explain to the wife. And now the car stereo doesn't work through a wire to my phone any longer. The last thing I want is another App Store. I enjoy the privacy and security of its payment disintermediation. An App Store from Facebook or Amazon is just going to be 'yet another spying apparatus.' No doubt employers and schools will be demanding their use soon.
- parl_match 3y agoThe cookie banners are an unfortunate side effect of some pretty good data handling policy. > the annoyance of needing new (expensive) cables for no real reason A USB C cable is like $5 and one with a built in dac is $20
- adastra22 3y agoAnd one capable of safely charging your computer is $50. Yet they all look exactly the same.
- ponector 3y agoMandatory USB-C charger is awesome. With one power adapter I can charge everything! Laptop, phone, power bank, Bluetooth speaker, ever car seat for my child (yes, car seat nowadays have a battery). I hope everything will be with USB-C, all home appliances as well.
- jemmyw 3y ago> I hope everything will be with USB-C, all home appliances as well. I'm not sure I want a kettle pulling 2400w over a usb cable
- ponector 3y agoDoes your kettle have a separate charger? What connector is there? USB kettle is not a joke you can find plenty on Amazon. But I'm thinking about cordless appliances: shaver, toothbrush, vacuum cleaner, etc.
- BitwiseFool 3y agoCan they make us adopt the Metric system while they're at it?
- palata 3y agoNah, I think it's fun to read US people trying to explain how the imperial system is "more intuitive" :-).
- poisonborz 3y agoEach of those achievements were half-heartedly done, companies got around them, and the EU never followed up on the issues.
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- deviantbit 3y agoQuestion, why do you tolerate it at all? I have 4 stores installed on my Samsung phone.
- BiteCode_dev 3y agoSame. And 3 on my laptop. It's fair the average consumer don't want to deal with those things. It's not that we can't.
- kdwikzncba 3y ago[dead]
- cheriot 3y agoGenerally agree, but unfortunately the EU screwed up informed tracking consent. By giving control of the consent UI to the website owner, it's as painful as possible to use (incentives!). Make the requirement an API so the browser controls the UI and there's a competition to make users happy.
- BiteCode_dev 3y agoIf you do this, tech-challenged law makers will do even worse than the companies. It sucks, but it's less bad to let them do all the wrong things, and then say "not that", until only what's good remain. I wish companies would not start by being assholes to save a step, but politicians is terrible.