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Id go further and say the CoC has 0 impact. The first rule by itself is absurdly long. No one is reading that. Its not shaping anything. It’s for the writer.

Auguste 3y ago
I disagree. I've never heard of this game before, but I just read the whole CoC and it made me want to give it a try. I respect that the developer went to great lengths to outline their expectations in such clear detail. It sounds like a cool community to me.
michaelt 3y ago
> No one is reading that. Its not shaping anything. That may well be the case. But in any online community, eventually some people are going to get banned. And many people - even those who aren't getting banned - prefer it if the banning is conducted according so some sort of written document, even if they've never read that document in detail themselves. Other online communities with far more lightweight rules are also available, for people who prefer that :)
- VectorLock 3y ago
  (Un)Just In Time Code of Conducting to be even more hilariously capricious: your "ban user" button has a "reason" field that then appends that "reason" to your Code of Conduct.
- rykar 3y ago
  Improbable island used to have more or less only one rule, outside of "underage shit will get you reported to your ISP", and that was "don't be a dick". It worked well, on the surface, but as the CoC says, there were a lot of issues that cropped up that went mostly unnoticed, even as they were impacting a surprising number of players. I prefer the new CoC. Lists of rules are never something that someone will regularly reference. You'll read through it once, get an understanding of the ground rules and community expectations, and then fit into the community and get up to speed by experience. Sometimes, people make mistakes, and someone can say "hey, maybe don't do that, Code of Conduct has a bit about that", and that someone can go "ah crud, thanks".
patcon 3y ago
In the 1000-active-user forum I managed, the small subset of ppl who feel ownership of the community (maybe 20 in my case) ABSOLUTELY read the CoC. it's a small minority, but those who read it are often prominent and engaged ppl, and they lean on it to make decisions and advocate for actions under their spheres of influence. Not everyone needs to read something in order for it to be impactful
Cthulhu_ 3y ago
It's a text-based online game / community; if people don't read, why are they on there in the first place?
howenterprisey 3y ago
How do you know it doesn't have an impact?
grey413 3y ago
Well, the writer is the community manager, so at the minimum they are reading the CoC. That in itself shapes their moderation, which shapes the community. However, in my experience core community members will read things like this CoC, at least partially. They also be fairly involved with discussions about it, which go a long way to shape a community.

Auguste 3y ago

I disagree. I've never heard of this game before, but I just read the whole CoC and it made me want to give it a try. I respect that the developer went to great lengths to outline their expectations in such clear detail. It sounds like a cool community to me.

michaelt 3y ago

> No one is reading that. Its not shaping anything. That may well be the case. But in any online community, eventually some people are going to get banned. And many people - even those who aren't getting banned - prefer it if the banning is conducted according so some sort of written document, even if they've never read that document in detail themselves. Other online communities with far more lightweight rules are also available, for people who prefer that :)

VectorLock 3y ago
(Un)Just In Time Code of Conducting to be even more hilariously capricious: your "ban user" button has a "reason" field that then appends that "reason" to your Code of Conduct.
rykar 3y ago
Improbable island used to have more or less only one rule, outside of "underage shit will get you reported to your ISP", and that was "don't be a dick". It worked well, on the surface, but as the CoC says, there were a lot of issues that cropped up that went mostly unnoticed, even as they were impacting a surprising number of players. I prefer the new CoC. Lists of rules are never something that someone will regularly reference. You'll read through it once, get an understanding of the ground rules and community expectations, and then fit into the community and get up to speed by experience. Sometimes, people make mistakes, and someone can say "hey, maybe don't do that, Code of Conduct has a bit about that", and that someone can go "ah crud, thanks".

patcon 3y ago

In the 1000-active-user forum I managed, the small subset of ppl who feel ownership of the community (maybe 20 in my case) ABSOLUTELY read the CoC. it's a small minority, but those who read it are often prominent and engaged ppl, and they lean on it to make decisions and advocate for actions under their spheres of influence. Not everyone needs to read something in order for it to be impactful

Cthulhu_ 3y ago

It's a text-based online game / community; if people don't read, why are they on there in the first place?

howenterprisey 3y ago

How do you know it doesn't have an impact?

grey413 3y ago

Well, the writer is the community manager, so at the minimum they are reading the CoC. That in itself shapes their moderation, which shapes the community. However, in my experience core community members will read things like this CoC, at least partially. They also be fairly involved with discussions about it, which go a long way to shape a community.