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So, some asian-looking people asked the guy not to film them and the guy decided to be a loud dick about the whole thing, while almost assaulting one of the wom

So, some asian-looking people asked the guy not to film them and the guy decided to be a loud dick about the whole thing, while almost assaulting one of the women. "CCP members threaten British public piano player", right. I get that some countries still don't have a legal requirement to blur people in the background (or at least when they asked you to), but this is a common courtesy and basic politeness every semi-professional vlogger understands. Just don't be evil.

piva00 3y ago
It was pretty evil of the Asian-looking guy shouting "DON'T TOUCH HER" "You're not of the same age". He was threatened and only escalated to be a dick about it after they were a dick to him. He is also quite well within his rights, trying to intimidate him to stop doing it is pretty fucking evil as well. Have we watched the same video?
- foverzar 3y ago
  > It was pretty evil of the Asian-looking guy shouting "DON'T TOUCH HER" "You're not of the same age". It was hysterical, but I don't see how is this evil, more like being protective. And it happened way past the point of conflict > He was threatened and only escalated to be a dick about it after they were a dick to him. How was he threatened? These people were barely speaking English, which the guy started mocking from the very beginning of the conversation, before he could even figure out what they were even asking for. > Have we watched the same video? Honestly asking the same question. Am rewatching 9:00-10:00 how the lady tries to ask the guy not to film, but he just mocks her: "No disco? No disco? Whot, the ChInEsE GoVeRnMeNt will jail us?" How is this not being a dick? At about the 10:00 another asian guy steps in and says "basically we ask you, whatever you do, don't publish our faces on TV, we will appreciate that" The piano guy responds: "What happens if I don't?" The asian guy responds: "We'll just really just appreciate if you do. We are very sensitive to this kind of thing. Sorry, we really like your music, yada-yada". The asian guy clearly tries to deescalate and ask nicely, while the piano guy is all like "oh yeah? Watcha gonna do?" How is this threatening? > He is also quite well within his rights So are people who listen to loud music when a baby is sleeping next door. They are quite within their rights, but this hardly makes them any less terrible people for doing it just to make a point.
  - zzzqw12 3y ago
    1. They're in public. Recording is allowed and doesn't need your consent. If you don't want to be recorded, just leave or move away. 2. They ASKED to not be filmed on public and the answer they got was no but they decided to stay and continue to be filmed. The British guy is not obligated to be nice and when this happens just leave. 3. If the Asian guys really wanted to deescalate the situation, they would have left ages ago. They stayed because they think they are in the right to force the British guy to not flim them.
- ShaolinTrooper 3y ago
  If that Chinese dude were to do that here in Manila Philippines, he would get beat up real good. He's lucky to be in an good country and not some 3rd world country where their so-called "rights" are spat on by the public.
neom 3y ago
There is a whole genre on youtube of people who go out and bother people in public with cameras "because it's their right". Check out "Amagansett Press". Fine, people have their rights. That said, In film school, we were taught that we can film anyone in public and that's our right, and also taught that if you film someone in public and they come up and tell you it's a problem, it's polite to not publish their likeness/delete the image. I always did do, but quite a few kids in class couldn't care less. Different strokes.
- foverzar 3y ago
  > if you film someone in public and they come up and tell you it's a problem, it's polite to not publish their likeness/delete the image That's my point, that's just basic politeness.
  - neom 3y ago
    Unfortunately my friend, basic politeness is a lot to ask for in this day and age.
    - foverzar 3y ago
      In the age when mocking members of some politically disliked group and generally being a troll can get you viral? Yeah, not a chance.
  - g-b-r 3y ago
    It's actual law to respect that demand, in many countries
    - foverzar 3y ago
      I assume that's where the idea of taking a legal action comes from, but that should be irrelevant. If someone asks you not to publish their faces, especially after you were the one to approach them first in the first place, you just do it. Period. All it takes is a single note and 30 seconds of time during editing.
BobbyJo 3y ago
> asian-looking people They were waving CCP flags, so making that sounds like some kind of race blindness is a bit wild. > but this is a common courtesy and basic politeness every semi-professional vlogger understands. The way they acted when asking not to be filmed was very impolite.
- danielspace23 3y ago
  CCP flags? That's just China's flag. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China#/media/File:Flag_of_the_People's_Republic_of_China.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China#/media/File:Flag_of_the_...
  - floren 3y ago
    Well, this is the flag of true China: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Republic_of_China#/media/File%3AFlag_of_the_Republic_of_China.svg https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Republic_of_Chin...
    - foverzar 3y ago
      > true China > Taiwan/ROC And then people keep pretending they don't understand what's all the fuss between PRC and ROC is even about.
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- foverzar 3y ago
  > They were waving CCP flags Its a PRC flag. I don't think "CCP" flag is even a thing. CCP or Chinese isn't a race, so I don't get the "race blindness" bit at all. > The way they acted when asking not to be filmed was very impolite. Was it? I see a woman carefully approaching the guy and calmly and quietly asking if they were in the video, trying to communicate that they don't want to be. There is a clear language barrier and the guy mocks her when she tries to approach in different ways. I'd say the guy is clearly behaving like a dick and is actively looking for conflict. Ironically the very next video YT suggests on this channel is named "security goons try to ban music and failed", suggesting that the guy really has a certain way about himself.
frant-hartm 3y ago
> still don't have a legal requirement to blur people in the background What countries require to "blur people in the background"?
- foverzar 3y ago
  Japan? Bystanders are always blurred on videos from Japan.
Unbefleckt 3y ago
Timestamp of the almost-assault?
- foverzar 3y ago
  13:20. If I was that woman and some creepy dude was grabbing things from my hands, I'd surely kick the guy in the balls and call it self-defence. Don't grab women.
  - zzzqw12 3y ago
    You will sure lose that self defense case lol.

piva00 3y ago

It was pretty evil of the Asian-looking guy shouting "DON'T TOUCH HER" "You're not of the same age". He was threatened and only escalated to be a dick about it after they were a dick to him. He is also quite well within his rights, trying to intimidate him to stop doing it is pretty fucking evil as well. Have we watched the same video?

foverzar 3y ago
> It was pretty evil of the Asian-looking guy shouting "DON'T TOUCH HER" "You're not of the same age". It was hysterical, but I don't see how is this evil, more like being protective. And it happened way past the point of conflict > He was threatened and only escalated to be a dick about it after they were a dick to him. How was he threatened? These people were barely speaking English, which the guy started mocking from the very beginning of the conversation, before he could even figure out what they were even asking for. > Have we watched the same video? Honestly asking the same question. Am rewatching 9:00-10:00 how the lady tries to ask the guy not to film, but he just mocks her: "No disco? No disco? Whot, the ChInEsE GoVeRnMeNt will jail us?" How is this not being a dick? At about the 10:00 another asian guy steps in and says "basically we ask you, whatever you do, don't publish our faces on TV, we will appreciate that" The piano guy responds: "What happens if I don't?" The asian guy responds: "We'll just really just appreciate if you do. We are very sensitive to this kind of thing. Sorry, we really like your music, yada-yada". The asian guy clearly tries to deescalate and ask nicely, while the piano guy is all like "oh yeah? Watcha gonna do?" How is this threatening? > He is also quite well within his rights So are people who listen to loud music when a baby is sleeping next door. They are quite within their rights, but this hardly makes them any less terrible people for doing it just to make a point.
- zzzqw12 3y ago
  1. They're in public. Recording is allowed and doesn't need your consent. If you don't want to be recorded, just leave or move away. 2. They ASKED to not be filmed on public and the answer they got was no but they decided to stay and continue to be filmed. The British guy is not obligated to be nice and when this happens just leave. 3. If the Asian guys really wanted to deescalate the situation, they would have left ages ago. They stayed because they think they are in the right to force the British guy to not flim them.
ShaolinTrooper 3y ago
If that Chinese dude were to do that here in Manila Philippines, he would get beat up real good. He's lucky to be in an good country and not some 3rd world country where their so-called "rights" are spat on by the public.

neom 3y ago

There is a whole genre on youtube of people who go out and bother people in public with cameras "because it's their right". Check out "Amagansett Press". Fine, people have their rights. That said, In film school, we were taught that we can film anyone in public and that's our right, and also taught that if you film someone in public and they come up and tell you it's a problem, it's polite to not publish their likeness/delete the image. I always did do, but quite a few kids in class couldn't care less. Different strokes.

foverzar 3y ago
> if you film someone in public and they come up and tell you it's a problem, it's polite to not publish their likeness/delete the image That's my point, that's just basic politeness.
- neom 3y ago
  Unfortunately my friend, basic politeness is a lot to ask for in this day and age.
  - foverzar 3y ago
    In the age when mocking members of some politically disliked group and generally being a troll can get you viral? Yeah, not a chance.
- g-b-r 3y ago
  It's actual law to respect that demand, in many countries
  - foverzar 3y ago
    I assume that's where the idea of taking a legal action comes from, but that should be irrelevant. If someone asks you not to publish their faces, especially after you were the one to approach them first in the first place, you just do it. Period. All it takes is a single note and 30 seconds of time during editing.

BobbyJo 3y ago

> asian-looking people They were waving CCP flags, so making that sounds like some kind of race blindness is a bit wild. > but this is a common courtesy and basic politeness every semi-professional vlogger understands. The way they acted when asking not to be filmed was very impolite.

danielspace23 3y ago
CCP flags? That's just China's flag. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China#/media/File:Flag_of_the_People's_Republic_of_China.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China#/media/File:Flag_of_the_...
- floren 3y ago
  Well, this is the flag of true China: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Republic_of_China#/media/File%3AFlag_of_the_Republic_of_China.svg https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Republic_of_Chin...
  - foverzar 3y ago
    > true China > Taiwan/ROC And then people keep pretending they don't understand what's all the fuss between PRC and ROC is even about.
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foverzar 3y ago
> They were waving CCP flags Its a PRC flag. I don't think "CCP" flag is even a thing. CCP or Chinese isn't a race, so I don't get the "race blindness" bit at all. > The way they acted when asking not to be filmed was very impolite. Was it? I see a woman carefully approaching the guy and calmly and quietly asking if they were in the video, trying to communicate that they don't want to be. There is a clear language barrier and the guy mocks her when she tries to approach in different ways. I'd say the guy is clearly behaving like a dick and is actively looking for conflict. Ironically the very next video YT suggests on this channel is named "security goons try to ban music and failed", suggesting that the guy really has a certain way about himself.

frant-hartm 3y ago

> still don't have a legal requirement to blur people in the background What countries require to "blur people in the background"?

foverzar 3y ago
Japan? Bystanders are always blurred on videos from Japan.

Unbefleckt 3y ago

Timestamp of the almost-assault?

foverzar 3y ago
13:20. If I was that woman and some creepy dude was grabbing things from my hands, I'd surely kick the guy in the balls and call it self-defence. Don't grab women.
- zzzqw12 3y ago
  You will sure lose that self defense case lol.