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Isn’t it also common to believe there is not enough housing, a homelessness crisis, but that housing shouldn’t be built anywhere?

• SOLAR_FIELDS 3y ago
  Few people hold both of those views simultaneously. Few people actually believe that no housing should be built anywhere. A lot of people believe housing is great as long as it doesn’t directly affect them in any way ie isn’t within X miles of their home or on their commute
• Avicebron 3y ago
  well at least not in their backyard. As much as I support housing I also think there should just be a genuine attempt at increasing the ability for people to actually have meaningful/paying work that can put them in said housing. It seems like there isn't enough of that (despite all the supposed claims to the contrary)
  • api 3y ago
    If there's not enough housing then improvements in wages will just inflate the cost of housing.
• HPsquared 3y ago
  Not mutually exclusive if the problem is seen as "too many people".
  • keerthiko 3y ago
    i don't think anyone who has been to any of the world's top 100 biggest cities could in good faith say SF has too many people. it's barely got a midwestern suburb's level of density.
    • seanmcdirmid 3y ago
      SF is the second most dense big city in the USA. There is no way that: > it's barely got a midwestern suburb's level of density. Is true.
      • api 3y ago
        The dense part is geographically confined. SF really has a perfect storm for real estate hyperinflation: high paying jobs, NIMBY attitudes that can be summarized as “keep everything like it was in 1972,” opposition to transit links to less constrained areas, and geographic constraints.
        • seanmcdirmid 3y ago
          > The dense part is geographically confined. I don't see how that is relevant. > SF really has a perfect storm for real estate hyperinflation: high paying jobs, NIMBY attitudes that can be summarized as “keep everything like it was in 1972,” opposition to transit links to less constrained areas, and geographic constraints. It also has nice weather and has been a desirable trainhopping destination since the late 19th century. Given the cost of nearby areas, I'm not sure transit links would help out much, if anything the city and surrounding areas would become even more desirable, pushing prices up further. HK has much of the same problems (in terms of geographic constraints) and has a nice transit system to get around that, but it hasn't moved the needle much on affordability. Things get a little better in the rest of the Bay Area, but no one would call Shenzhen affordable.
          • aworks 3y ago
            I wasn't sure why you were comparing the San Francisco Bay Area to Shenzhen. Then I realized you mean the bay area that's ten times the population of the San Francisco Bay Area. Now that's a bay area...
          • jazzyjackson 3y ago
            HK actually has plenty of land to build, but the government funds itself through land sales so they are incentivized to keep the price of land extremely high
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