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And yet they crank out new and innovative "products" every 4 years. So much so that they were essentially doing 90% of what Meta is trying to do now with 100x l
by LarsDu88 3y ago
And yet they crank out new and innovative "products" every 4 years. So much so that they were essentially doing 90% of what Meta is trying to do now with 100x less people and budget.
I think the real answer lies in the fact that at a public company, you will need to answer to shareholders, but at Valve, you actually need to answer to the whims of benevolent dictator Gabe Newell.
- ilrwbwrkhv 3y agoValve also has much better hackers than Facebook.
- Eisenstein 3y agoSince VR was mentioned tangentially, how many 'Valve hackers' is one John Carmack worth?
- Aeolun 3y agoZero, right now, as he’s not working with Facebook any more.
- Eisenstein 3y agoI guess everyone takes everything seriously now and there is no light banter anymore...
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- LarsDu88 3y agoNot only not working there, but distinctly said he left because he complained that too much money was being sent down the money hole and productivity per capita was abysmal
- edgyquant 3y agoI don’t know, how many combined are worth -500 million? Think just one is worth literally hundreds of million more than him all things considered
- LarsDu88 3y agoTo play devil's advocate for my own point, Michael Abrash was swiped from Valve by Facebook. The dude is a hardcore hacker. Even the rendering code in Age of Empires II owes him credit for performance optimizations!
- _xivi 3y ago> yet they[Valve] crank out new and innovative "products" every 4 years. So much so that they were essentially doing 90% of what Meta is trying to do now with 100x less people and budget. Innovative products every 4 years? Lol, if Facebook waited that long at any point in time it'd have died. Comparing Valve to Meta head-to-head is simply ridiculous. I'm not even sure which specific products you had in mind. Did you mean "Meta Quest"? Literally, each division within Meta is fighting in a different sector Valve has been operating in the same market for 27 years and has consequently built a loyal and enthusiastic fan base. Even if you believe Meta is directly competing with Valve, it's embarrassing for Valve, as someone in their position should be undisputed in their niche and have the market in deadlock.
- Aeolun 3y agoI think he’s talking about the Index and their new Linux console
- robertlagrant 3y ago> Even if you believe Meta is directly competing with Valve, it's embarrassing for Valve, as someone in their position should be undisputed in their niche and have the market in deadlock. Meta can tap a billion people to play social games.
- Apocryphon 3y agoPeople don’t care to.
- internet101010 3y agoFrom a customer perspective Valve is undisputed. Nobody opens any other marketplace unless they have to.