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It means you need to time a ship to be on the receiving end. It sort of requires symmetric regular 2-way traffic to work.
by quickthrower2 3y ago
It means you need to time a ship to be on the receiving end. It sort of requires symmetric regular 2-way traffic to work.
- keiferski 3y agoTrue but maybe the time saved by cutting across Mexico and waiting for a receiver ship will still be less than going south through Panama.
- CPLX 3y agoThe extra time for Panama is waiting for your slot, not the time it takes to drive the boat there.
- keiferski 3y agoProbably depends on where you’re shipping from. Houston to East Asia is almost certainly faster through Mexico than down through Panama.
- Fatnino 3y agoTime only really matters for the ships. A ship sitting around, full or empty, is burning money. But if a shipping container is delayed a little waiting for a ship it's no big deal.
- thaumasiotes 3y agoIs that different from purely-oceanic shipping? The Box says that Malcom McLean decided to run a container ship that only went east, and it was a miserable failure because a delay on any part of the route meant the same delay happened everywhere else in the route (because it was the same ship). That tends to imply that what you want in shipping is a bunch of reliable legs, not one point-to-point transport?
- Scoundreller 3y agoBut you do get the opportunity of running multiple smaller ships on the receiving end to different destinations. That transloading often happens anyway eventually. And injecting some straight into the local railway network. And running larger than Panamax ships on either side.
- zer00eyz 3y ago> But you do get the opportunity of running multiple smaller ships on the receiving end to different destinations. But for the Jones act. Ask Puerto Rico, Alaska and Hawaii why everything is so expensive! https://www.cato.org/blog/jones-acts-role-encouraging-puerto-ricos-use-russian-energy https://www.cato.org/blog/jones-acts-role-encouraging-puerto...
- gumby 3y agoIn this case Mexico is a sovereign country so the Jones Act won’t apply.
- bluGill 3y agoOne end is Mexico sothe jones act won't apply. In fact this could make thing, cheaper because a small ship, for a short run makes sense
- zer00eyz 3y ago40% of all us containers go through the canal. 60% of all canal traffic is US containers. Look at some place North Carolina... 1000 calls a year. There is rail, truck and warehouse infrastructure to support that. It is highly optimized because of domestic transit by rail and truck, of imports and exports. If you optimize your profit, by dropping imports closer to the point of consumption any extra profit you make will be consumed by rail and trucks getting exports to you in a non optimal way. The smart choice is to sail to the port where the exports are. But because you can't take that domestic cargo you going in a non optimal state... that empty transit time just cost you money because you have a 2nd captain, crew, ship, insurance and moving an empty vessel is waste! Basicity the limits the jones act imposes means that you can't fully optimize against the cost and structure of domestic transit.
- devoutsalsa 3y agoOr a very big trebuchet to fling 90 deadweight kilotons 300 kilometers.
- christophilus 3y agoThat’s ridiculous. It should be 350 kilometers to account for headwinds.
- devoutsalsa 3y agoIf you get it most of the way, it can just roll downhill the rest of the way.
- foobarian 3y agoWhat would be amazing is if you could capture it on the receiving and and recover the kinetic energy somehow to transport to the launching site.
- marcosdumay 3y agoWell, that's what wings are for.
- thfuran 3y agoThat doesn't sound at all like what wings are for.
- marcosdumay 3y agoOh, sorry, I meant recovering the energy to propel the ship. I overlooked the part about sending it back to the trebuchet.
- ghshephard 3y agoThis sort of approach seems to lend itself very well to a tranship port similar to Singapore - you can async have pickups/deliveries - most cargo containers are fine sitting in a tranship port for a few days.
- hedvig23 3y agoUDP couldn't work here?
- CPLX 3y agoNo it doesn’t. One ship from Asia could be split up and resorted as part of this with some of it gojng on to New Orleans some to Newark some to Miami and so on.
- arwineap 3y agoAn atlantic ship could immediately start unloading without waiting for their turn through the canal, it could be a speed advantage because that ship is now ready to turn around and get another load. Those containers don't have to be loaded directly onto a train, they would likely get unloaded into a yard. This sort of transport is used to complicated logistics, it wont' take long to get ironed out