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Demonstrating Cybertruck's dangerous lack of pinch sensors
- creesch 3y agoThere is no doubt the Cybertruck is a joke in regard to safety in many areas. But, looking at the videos a little I am not sure how some of the things shown are different from any other car. Specifically where he slams the door shut, no sensor is going to help there. For the automated hood closing I do think it is valid criticism that it should have some form of sensor.
- sdflhasjd 3y agoThe last video (which you might not see due to Threads' silly UI) does show the automatic boot door on another car not doing this. Definitely not sure what the door slamming video is supposed to show. I'm not keen on trying it with my own car and fingers to compare. Interestingly, "@snippy_tinman" in the replies (which you can actually fecking see in Threads) says this is a Federal requirement[1]: > While closing, the power-operated window, partition, or roof panel shall stop and reverse direction either before contacting a test rod with properties described in S8.2 or S8.3, or before exerting a squeezing force of 100 newtons I'm not sure if a boot/tailgate counts as a "partition" though [1] - https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/49/571.118 https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/49/571.118
- stuaxo 3y agoMost cars don't have sharp edges there and there is rubber. I'm pretty sure I've seen a kid get the fingers shut in a door, and it was just a matter of opening it, no injury and certainly no amputation.
- hef19898 3y agoIf ypu are really unlucky, I have seen broken fingers. Amputations shouldn't happen so outside of serious accidents, and even then they should be extremely rare.
- chmod775 3y agoAs a kid I once got a door slammed shut on my fingers on the inside (hinge area) of the door of a now ~40 year old car. It hurt like hell then and for a few hours after, but I guess my fingers at ~7 years old were still slim enough to come out without any permanent injury. There was some rubber padding even on a car that old (I'm thinking the purpose is making the door watertight though). The Tesla doors look like my fingers would have had no chance. How do we go backwards from something we got right four decades ago? Especially the self-closing hatch which seems to exert a scary amount of force in an area were people will be prone to place their hands.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago>How do we go backwards from something we got right four decades ago? Simple. By treating car developement like SV SW development, thereby not giving a damn about the past decades of automotive know-how and lessons learned, as that's considered boring and uncool crust, and only focusing on developing new unrealistic and shiny features ("hey look at this snake charger that's coming in 6 months, isn't that cool") that look good on social media to boost sales and stocks prices. And it works for Tesla because most Tesla and newer car customers in general, don't check stuff like panel gaps, chassis cracks, door seals, panels being attached properly, etc as that's been a solved problem for decades in the auto industry that nobody thinks about anymore would be an issue today, so consumers just focus on looks and shiny new gadgets when buing a new car rather than what makes a car a car.
- elkos 3y agobut apparently the snake charger or the quick battery change infrastructure or the robotaxis... never came to fruition.
- FirmwareBurner 3y agoSo Elon just lied? /s
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- Lewton 3y ago> Specifically where he slams the door shut, I watched the video after reading your comment, expecting him to use a lot of force, but it really did not look like the word "slam" is warranted at all, and the cleanliness of the cut was pretty shocking
- hef19898 3y agoClean cuts are easier to sew on again. And they make for prettier scars.
- creesch 3y agoTo me it looks like he is closing the door with more force than you would normally do. Which is why I used the word "slam". In similar situations with other cars I have seen broken fingers as well. Anyway, as I said safety is a joke in many regards of the Cybertruck, this specific example stood out to me as just being a slightly worse example compared to the rest.
- GuB-42 3y agoBut these are carrots, not fingers. Carrots naturally break clean.
- ahahahahah 3y ago> I am not sure how some of the things shown are different from any other car. Did you actually watch the hour long source video that was linked to (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxpv3X53WN0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxpv3X53WN0)? There's a ton of examples on both the cybertruck and a rivian. You can clearly see how it's different from another car.
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- robertlagrant 3y agoDue to the Facebook container, I got trapped between a Threads signup page and zero back button. Can we have a [threads] suffix? :)
- fragmede 3y agoit says threads.net in grey
- butterknife 3y agoPinched? :)
- robertlagrant 3y agoExactly. I need this experience rubberised.
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- feverzsj 3y agoMaybe don't put your finger there.
- yakshaving_jgt 3y agoSeatbelts and airbags are pointless. Just don't crash. Simple.
- spacecadet 3y agoNo seriously. Someone else crashes into you, but are people coming around slamming your hands in the trunk? Shit analogy. Remember these rules are meant to protect you from others, not your self...
- hef19898 3y agoCompanies have an obligation to sell safe products. There are even laws in place for that. Not doing so can even become pretty expensive in the US I am told.
- dorkwood 3y agoWe've become so coddled as a society that we now worry more about safety than progress. What would you prefer: a car that spends all its energy making sure everyone nearby is "safe", or a car that can drive on top of the water like a boat?
- beepbooptheory 3y agoScare quote aside, I prefer the first one. It sounds way more cool and like "progress" than a boat.
- hef19898 3y agoSince a car obviously is a car and not a boat, the safer car, obviously. And regarding process, amphibious cars already existed in the 70s. Not sure if that is still within Musks SF fantasy timeline or not. Also, Flying Cars!
- pmontra 3y agoI can chop carrots and fingers with every door of my car and of my home (and of anybody's else homes) and with any drawer. We undergo a lot of training not to harm ourselves with those things since we were little. The problems are with doors we don't control and can trap ourselves before we can escape their chopping surfaces.
- pointlessone 3y agoThis is not the only problem. Notice how the guy struggles to push the button on Tesla and put the carrot in place to chop. No one would do that. However, it’s very easy to miss if someone else’s carrots are in dangerous places.
- orwin 3y agoDon't have an opinion on this, going with "not great, but not terrible". The Rivian video show impressive tech however. The interior seemed tolerable for a post 2015 car, but now i know the tech is really good. Not a car guy, and i doubt it would be legal in Europe, but if i had to buy an electric, i'd go for the Rivian. Also, quick aside: threads seems to be an good place for micro-blogging, the video service is responsive and you can see comment without being logged, which, huge win.
- r0ckarong 3y agoI think the worst part is the lack of handles. Sensor doesn't recognize door closed because smeared with blood or jammed, can't open back up because internal latch reports not closed all the way. Call the fire department to come unjam the door on the screaming child.
- RecycledEle 3y agoTIL: Pinch sensors on car doors, hoods, and trunk lids are a thing.