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China probably gave a bad name to dictatorships for their 1-child policy, but the guy you are replying to has a history of denying that birth rates in most of W

China probably gave a bad name to dictatorships for their 1-child policy, but the guy you are replying to has a history of denying that birth rates in most of Western Europe is pretty much only held up by immigrants.

anovikov 3y ago
So what's the problem if so? U.S. is a country entirely built of migrants. And they give citizenship by birth which Europe does not. And seems to be doing pretty well. CCP on the other hand, has no chance in the world to attract migrants, because people are not fools.
- vinnyvichy 3y ago
  Problem seems to be modern ("postenlightenment") liberalism: https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-conservative-fertility-advantage https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-conservative-fertility-advant... You can see rayiner's nuanced take above.. rayiner is a well known republican here.. US liberals full on supported fertility reduction in Asia (not to mention contributed to such in their own country)
- chalcolithic 3y ago
  You seems to be pretty confident in China prospects. Are you willing to bet $1000 against my $100 that if China tries to lure in immigrants from a wide range of countries it will fail?
  - mensetmanusman 3y ago
    about 10% of the US is immigrant, that number is less than 0.1% in China.
  - berserk1010 3y ago
    dictatorship + failing economy + xenophobia + han-ethnocentrism goes brutally hard against immigration from other nationalities. immigrants would be beaten, harassed, and killed en mass in China.
    - anovikov 3y ago
      Plus, Chinese really see everyone except Han as subhuman. White westerners for them, are a curiosity, sure every Chinese would be proud of hooking up with a white woman, but even those, they don't see as their equals. Everyone else, they take for pretty much human trash. It's hard to imagine anyone wanting to immigrate there. Plus, well, main reason for immigration is to give better future for your children. Vast majority of people have no hope of regulating their kids' future by bestowing them money, so they want to do it by giving them better level of rights. In this regard, China is worse than almost any large country in the world. I'd much rather go to Belarus (you need to keep your mouth shut, or nasty stuff happens to you, but man, the CHICKS!!!), than China.

anovikov 3y ago

So what's the problem if so? U.S. is a country entirely built of migrants. And they give citizenship by birth which Europe does not. And seems to be doing pretty well. CCP on the other hand, has no chance in the world to attract migrants, because people are not fools.

vinnyvichy 3y ago
Problem seems to be modern ("postenlightenment") liberalism: https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-conservative-fertility-advantage https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-conservative-fertility-advant... You can see rayiner's nuanced take above.. rayiner is a well known republican here.. US liberals full on supported fertility reduction in Asia (not to mention contributed to such in their own country)
chalcolithic 3y ago
You seems to be pretty confident in China prospects. Are you willing to bet $1000 against my $100 that if China tries to lure in immigrants from a wide range of countries it will fail?
- mensetmanusman 3y ago
  about 10% of the US is immigrant, that number is less than 0.1% in China.
- berserk1010 3y ago
  dictatorship + failing economy + xenophobia + han-ethnocentrism goes brutally hard against immigration from other nationalities. immigrants would be beaten, harassed, and killed en mass in China.
  - anovikov 3y ago
    Plus, Chinese really see everyone except Han as subhuman. White westerners for them, are a curiosity, sure every Chinese would be proud of hooking up with a white woman, but even those, they don't see as their equals. Everyone else, they take for pretty much human trash. It's hard to imagine anyone wanting to immigrate there. Plus, well, main reason for immigration is to give better future for your children. Vast majority of people have no hope of regulating their kids' future by bestowing them money, so they want to do it by giving them better level of rights. In this regard, China is worse than almost any large country in the world. I'd much rather go to Belarus (you need to keep your mouth shut, or nasty stuff happens to you, but man, the CHICKS!!!), than China.