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Induction ranges heat up water faster and use less energy than gas ranges: https://www.treehugger.com/which-more-energy-efficient-cooking-gas-or-induction-48582
by dangus 3y ago
Induction ranges heat up water faster and use less energy than gas ranges: https://www.treehugger.com/which-more-energy-efficient-cooking-gas-or-induction-4858206 https://www.treehugger.com/which-more-energy-efficient-cooki...
Since you mentioned that you have backup heating, I assume you don’t live in a very cold climate, in which case a heat pump for your backup heat and water heater is your most efficient lowest cost option, not a gas system.
Part of your gas bill is just paying the gas company for a line. Your bill would be around $10 even if you use 0 gas. So basically having two different bills costs you extra money already.
Then there’s the fact that you can get a solar system and generate your own electricity, which you can’t do with gas. Solar systems can have a payoff period in the 5-10 year range which is very reasonable. If you pair it with an electric car you’re almost never paying a utility or oil company for your fuel needs.
I’m not saying you should run out and retrofit your whole home because that would never pay itself off, but in your climate I would never touch gas in a new build.
- swayvil 3y agoDo they make them without glass tops?
- rolobio 3y agoI had my glass stove top shatter. Turns out that is the only thing they don’t warranty. I did not opt for the extended warranty on the next stove…
- swayvil 3y agoAlso, apparently induction stoves require special cookware So you just throw out all your pots?
- fragmede 3y agoWhile I can make no comment about your pots, cast iron, and many types of stainless steel are compatible, so any pots purchased recently should work. What I can say is it turns out all my pots worked and I didn't have to repurchase any when I got my induction stove. And it was worth it. Induction is better than gas!
- pandaman 3y agoYou can purchase copper pots and pans right now and they won't work still, it's not the time of purchase but the material. Non-ferrous materials won't work with induction. Copper, aluminum, clay, stone, glass etc. won't work no matter when purchased.
- revscat 3y agoNo? Where did you get such a ridiculous idea?
- swayvil 3y agoFirst google https://www.neff.com.au/service/support/induction-cooktops/what-is-cookware#:~:text=Do%20you%20need%20new%20pans,itself%20that%20generates%20the%20heat https://www.neff.com.au/service/support/induction-cooktops/w....
- revscat 3y agoWell that’s flat-out wrong, and stupid to boot.
- amanaplanacanal 3y agoAluminum doesn’t work, but any cast iron or stainless steel should be fine. I don’t think I even own any aluminum pans.
- sliken 3y agoWe have a couple dozen pots/pans, collected from merging two households and a few decades of collecting pots/pans as needed. So far we found one that doesn't work.
- nemo44x 3y agoHeating up water quickly is almost never a use case. It is not on the critical path for optimizations either. Unless you subsist on boiling noodles when you’re late for a meeting.
- nephy 3y agoI use an electric kettle for this.
- matwood 3y agoExactly. Talking how fast to boil water is pretty much useless. Tell me how to actually cook on induction like I do with gas.
- revscat 3y agoThe same, only without giving money to Russia.
- the_third_wave 3y agoElectric kettles are even quicker at heating up water and use less power to do so. They are also cheap and can last for decades if taken care of reasonably well.
- sasmithjr 3y ago> Heating up water quickly is almost never a use case. It'd be helpful for my household for hot water for coffee and tea, and it'd also help us for heating up some extra water for grits or risotto when they need more. Also, isn't boiling water just the measurable outcome of the test but what matters is that the pot is coming to temp sooner? Pots and pans heating up more quickly is helpful all the time.
- nemo44x 3y agoElectric kettles are great for heating water quickly. Pans coming to temp sooner would be useful if the gap was measured in large units of time but it isn’t. I care more about the properties of the pan and fire more. For instance cast iron pan is used to hold a lot of heat but isn’t very reactive. A copper pan can heat up quickly but more importantly it can change temps quickly. This is known as reactivity. For instance maybe I want to sear a pork chop on high heat and then drop the burner and toss in butter and herbs. I need reaction (in this case the pan cooling quickly) for this basic technique or else I have burned my butter.
- nephy 3y agoTotally agree, thank you for the balanced response. Most builders where I live install gas by default. I may have considered induction if I was building from scratch, but it’s really not worth it for us right now. Especially knowing the sources of our electricity at the moment.
- korhojoa 3y agoIf somebody installs something that requires a fee and extra connection when building with something semi-permanent like house appliances, kind of makes me think there is some sort of kickback scheme for them to do so. Having gas appliances where I live is seen as a liability, as you have yet another maintenance item, and it contributes negatively to indoor air, so you have to have much more care regarding air handling in your areas where it is used. (unsurprisingly, demand for gas and gas appliances has plummeted ever since Russia started with their fuckery so people have been converting in droves as well.)
- dangus 3y agoThat’s another great point: no worries about CO or gas leaks/explosions with an all-electric house.
- heartbreak 3y ago> I assume you don’t live in a very cold climate, in which case a heat pump for your backup heat Like OP, I also live in South Carolina. My primary heat is a modern, efficient electric heat pump. When it’s cold enough outside that the heat pump is no longer more efficient than gas (maybe 8-12 weeks/yr where I am), the system switches fuel sources and runs a natural gas furnace instead.
- fallingknife 3y agoPeople pitching induction always mention that they boil water faster, and it's true. But in my experience with induction, which I admit is not a lot, it seems like that is the only thing it's better at.
- disgruntledphd2 3y agoInduction is really nice in terms of speed and responsiveness but it's harder to do the tiny adjustments that you can do with gas because the induction is digital rather than analog.
- peteradio 3y agoTiny adjustments is a nice way of saying you avoid wild variations spatially and temporally when you use gas.
- disgruntledphd2 3y agoI mean, I feel like induction is less precise, but I suspect my cooking has actually improved as it stops me doing silly things with gas.