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The mustang mach-e is infinitely higher build quality than anything Tesla makes. From body panel alignment to interior squeaks and rattles.

by tw04 3y ago

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
Was gonna say the same. I'm not a Ford fan but out of all the American brands they have the best image of quality here in Europe. GM seems to just be trash everywhere.
icelancer 3y ago
Did you see the software update brick a Mach-E? https://twitter.com/danluu/status/1739387245034139692 https://twitter.com/danluu/status/1739387245034139692 That said, I've rented a Mach-E and its "self-driving" module is far, far superior to the Tesla. Hands-free, no wheel nudging, and a bar that watches your face/vision. Reminds me of comma.ai type work.
- vel0city 3y ago
  Did you see the software update brick a Tesla Model 3? https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/112oqln/new_tesla_model_3_bricked_after_update/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/112oqln/new_te... https://www.topspeed.com/real-story-behind-teslas-failed-ota-update/ https://www.topspeed.com/real-story-behind-teslas-failed-ota...
  - cyberax 3y ago
    To be fair, Tesla's software updates have been relatively robust, and they have quite a zoo of different car configurations. The article you quoted was a problem with an individual car.
    - vel0city 3y ago
      Some people have filed a class action about updates breaking batteries so I doubt it's truly just one car. https://www.hbsslaw.com/cases/tesla-model-s-model-x-software-battery-drain https://www.hbsslaw.com/cases/tesla-model-s-model-x-software... And even with the argument of it's just an individual car, well, so is this Twitter post.
      - cyberax 3y ago
        I remember that one. Tesla released an update that more accurately estimates the battery performance, resulting in that 20% correction. It didn't affect the battery itself. This case will go nowhere.
- MBCook 3y ago
  I’ve got one. I’m stuck waiting on a part for about a month after a dealer screw up. I got hit by the HVBJB issue. And the early recalls. I’m getting tired of issues. But I’m not sure there’s a better option for me out there. I’ve been through more than most since I have a very early build. Buy today you’re likely fine. Overall I still really like it. There’s a reason I didn’t buy a Tesla, and it wasn’t Musk’s behavior around the Twitter acquisition/afterwords (it hadn’t happened yet). The company’s reputation has only gotten worse in my mind as the various customer service exposes have come out.
  - tw04 3y ago
    >I got hit by the HVBJB issue. Same, but had a solid dealer who gave us a brand-new loaner for 2 weeks while they fixed the issue. It was basically a non-event. >And the early recalls. What other early recall put you out of commission? Everything else I experienced was a software update. >I’m getting tired of issues. Other than the delays on bluecruise 1.3, and the stupid "5 second rule" - what other issues have you had?
jonathankoren 3y ago
The fact that body panel alignment is something to tout is really damning about Tesla. That's just table stakes. Still my all time favorite defect. https://www.thedrive.com/news/22951/new-tesla-model-3-with-mismatched-door-panels-is-a-new-kind-of-bespoke-build https://www.thedrive.com/news/22951/new-tesla-model-3-with-m...
- MBCook 3y ago
  Wow. I hadn’t seen that one story. That’s amazing.

The mustang mach-e is infinitely higher build quality than anything Tesla makes. From body panel alignment to interior squeaks and rattles.

by tw04 3y ago

The mustang mach-e is infinitely higher build quality than anything Tesla makes. From body panel alignment to interior squeaks and rattles.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago

Was gonna say the same. I'm not a Ford fan but out of all the American brands they have the best image of quality here in Europe. GM seems to just be trash everywhere.

icelancer 3y ago

Did you see the software update brick a Mach-E? https://twitter.com/danluu/status/1739387245034139692 https://twitter.com/danluu/status/1739387245034139692 That said, I've rented a Mach-E and its "self-driving" module is far, far superior to the Tesla. Hands-free, no wheel nudging, and a bar that watches your face/vision. Reminds me of comma.ai type work.

vel0city 3y ago
Did you see the software update brick a Tesla Model 3? https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/112oqln/new_tesla_model_3_bricked_after_update/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/112oqln/new_te... https://www.topspeed.com/real-story-behind-teslas-failed-ota-update/ https://www.topspeed.com/real-story-behind-teslas-failed-ota...
- cyberax 3y ago
  To be fair, Tesla's software updates have been relatively robust, and they have quite a zoo of different car configurations. The article you quoted was a problem with an individual car.
  - vel0city 3y ago
    Some people have filed a class action about updates breaking batteries so I doubt it's truly just one car. https://www.hbsslaw.com/cases/tesla-model-s-model-x-software-battery-drain https://www.hbsslaw.com/cases/tesla-model-s-model-x-software... And even with the argument of it's just an individual car, well, so is this Twitter post.
    - cyberax 3y ago
      I remember that one. Tesla released an update that more accurately estimates the battery performance, resulting in that 20% correction. It didn't affect the battery itself. This case will go nowhere.
MBCook 3y ago
I’ve got one. I’m stuck waiting on a part for about a month after a dealer screw up. I got hit by the HVBJB issue. And the early recalls. I’m getting tired of issues. But I’m not sure there’s a better option for me out there. I’ve been through more than most since I have a very early build. Buy today you’re likely fine. Overall I still really like it. There’s a reason I didn’t buy a Tesla, and it wasn’t Musk’s behavior around the Twitter acquisition/afterwords (it hadn’t happened yet). The company’s reputation has only gotten worse in my mind as the various customer service exposes have come out.
- tw04 3y ago
  >I got hit by the HVBJB issue. Same, but had a solid dealer who gave us a brand-new loaner for 2 weeks while they fixed the issue. It was basically a non-event. >And the early recalls. What other early recall put you out of commission? Everything else I experienced was a software update. >I’m getting tired of issues. Other than the delays on bluecruise 1.3, and the stupid "5 second rule" - what other issues have you had?

jonathankoren 3y ago

The fact that body panel alignment is something to tout is really damning about Tesla. That's just table stakes. Still my all time favorite defect. https://www.thedrive.com/news/22951/new-tesla-model-3-with-mismatched-door-panels-is-a-new-kind-of-bespoke-build https://www.thedrive.com/news/22951/new-tesla-model-3-with-m...

MBCook 3y ago
Wow. I hadn’t seen that one story. That’s amazing.