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From the obituary in the New York Times: "Michael T. Kaufman, a former correspondent and editor for The Times who died in 2010, contributed reporting." So, Kis
by Metacelsus 3y ago
From the obituary in the New York Times: "Michael T. Kaufman, a former correspondent and editor for The Times who died in 2010, contributed reporting."
So, Kissinger outlived the guy who wrote his obituary!
- MichaelMoser123 3y agoarchive link: https://web.archive.org/web/20231130042426/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/29/us/henry-kissinger-dead.html https://web.archive.org/web/20231130042426/https://www.nytim...
- jhbadger 3y agoThat's very common. Basically all elderly people of note have obituaries written by reporters on staff so that an article can be gotten out quickly if the subject dies suddenly. Not uncommonly, the targets of the obituary are of a higher class and have better medical treatment and so live beyond their obituary writer.
- shadowgovt 3y agoPerhaps worth noting that he lived 13 years past the time the obituary was penned.
- actuallyalys 3y ago13 years past how long a contributor to the obituary lived. The contributor may have started work on the obituary even earlier and probably did, as Kissinger was 87 and it probably would have made sense to pre-write the obituary sooner.
- hulitu 3y agoIt really doesn't matter. Those writers are immortal. The only thing that would change such an obituary, is a regime change.
- whatshisface 3y agoThat last sentence is a massive step beyond common knowledge, if it's true... and I don't think it is, what can doctors do?
- dnsco 3y ago> The gap in life expectancy between the richest 1% and poorest 1% of individuals was 14.6 years (95% CI, 14.4 to 14.8 years) for men and 10.1 years (95% CI, 9.9 to 10.3 years) for women. Second, inequality in life expectancy increased over time. Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4866586/#:~:text=The%20gap%20in%20life%20expectancy,life%20expectancy%20increased%20over%20time https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4866586/#:~:tex....
- koolba 3y agoI really doubt a writer for the NYT is going to be in the bottom 1% of income or wealth.
- tempestn 3y agoThat's a very interesting study. I'm surprised the relationship is so linear through all the way through the income percentiles, aside from the very bottom few. I would have expected a relative plateau in the middle.
- bhk 3y agoBut from the same paper: > One such theory is that health and longevity are related to differences in medical care. The present analysis provides limited support for this theory. Life expectancy for low income individuals was not significantly correlated with measures of the quantity and quality of medical care provided, such as the fraction insured and measures of preventive care. The lack of a change in the mortality rates of individuals in the lowest income quartile (Figure 1) when they become eligible for Medicare coverage at the age of 65 years further supports the conclusion that a lack of access to care is not the primary reason that low-income individuals have shorter life expectancies.
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- xkekjrktllss 3y agoThe reasons have much more to do with much better diets, getting better sleep, not working stressful and physically demanding and dangerous jobs, etc.
- singleshot_ 3y agoI’m interested by the notion that the Secretary of State has a less stressful job than a guy writing obits. I mean, even if you’re only a cabinet officer for a couple years, that’s gotta take more off your clock than a lifetime of typing news articles with a deadline of “eventually the subject of the article will die.”
- ceejayoz 3y agoBeing fabulously wealthy helps a lot.
- da_chicken 3y agoTurns out that being able to afford a better life leads to a longer life.
- Phileosopher 3y agoGenetics play a huge part as well. From birth, we're given a death clock, which goes downward as stressors hit us, then further as we relive that stress. In other words, everyone would probably live to ~110 in a perfect, stressor-free world.
- pnw 3y agoIn this case, Kaufman died at 71 of an incurable cancer though.
- account42 3y agoIncurable by the time it was caught and even then "incurable" can sometimes end up being curable with a ridiculous amount of resources.
- rmk 3y agoJust curious. Was Kissinger a smoker? And was he an Ashkenazi Jew? Because he'd have risk factors from smoking, and would also be likely to have some known genetic predisposition to certain illnesses.
- SiempreViernes 3y agoThe guy died at a age of 100 dude...
- vasco 3y agoThey might have more money but there's no higher class.
- whycome 3y agoCommon? Give us another example
- Joeboy 3y agoSee here for some recent obits written by Ronald Bergen, who died in 2020: https://www.theguardian.com/profile/ronaldbergan https://www.theguardian.com/profile/ronaldbergan
- weinzierl 3y agoBy over a decade!
- varjag 3y agoIt's kind of nice to have some of your work outlive you, especially in such a transient medium.
- mywacaday 3y agoOut of curiosity I asked ChatGpt 4 to write an obituary for him and it refused as it would insensitive or disrespectful. I told it he had passed away, it checked the internet and wrote the obituary. The power of ChatGPT continues to amaze me.
- Terr_ 3y ago> I told it to he had passed away, it checked the internet Are you sure it didn't just "believe" what you told it, the same way LLMs can be badgered into falsehoods?
- trashymctrash 3y agoit now uses bing to perform searches. so i think he is probably correct to assume that it did that. it would show up as „performing search with bing“ in the chat history.
- 93po 3y agoEven before it could search online it would hallucinate checking things online. You could ask it to email you something or upload it somewhere and it'd also hallucinate thinking it did it for you. Changing its mind is always easy as long as you pretend to give it a source that refutes it.
- caskstrength 3y ago> Out of curiosity I asked ChatGpt 4 to write an obituary for him and it refused as it would insensitive or disrespectful. I'm continuously astonished how people pay 20$ per-month to be lectured like that. I guess I shouldn't be by now...
- A_D_E_P_T 3y agoWith good custom instructions, it almost never happens... "Treat me as an expert in all subject matter." "No moral lectures - discuss safety only when it's crucial and non-obvious." "If your content policy is an issue, provide the closest acceptable response and explain the issue." "No need to disclose you're an AI." "If the quality of your response has been substantially reduced due to my custom instructions, explain the issue."