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Should we also get rid of some of the young people if they are grumpy? Are you sure 80 years is enough, maybe it's 30?

anovikov 3y ago
This. Young people are way too grumpy these days, more than the old farts i know, who tend to enjoy their lives overall and are nice to others.
- bongobingo1 3y ago
  Gee I wonder why.
seydor 3y ago
no but , just as we are removing teenagers from the voting population, we should also be removing an equal number of voters from the other side of the age spectrum
- dietr1ch 3y ago
  It shouldn't be equal as the older ones won't face the consequences of their votes
- swores 3y ago
  Equal in quantity? So if the number of <18yos is X and there are X people over the age of 90 then that's the cut off, but if the following election there were far fewer old people then there might now be X over 70s so the cutoff gets redrawn there? Seems quite awkward operationally even if everyone agrees with the principle behind it. And even if you agree that it's problematic when older voters sway decisions that will affect future generations more than them, does matching the number of non-voters at each end of the spectrum solve that? And does the solution bring more benefits than the negatives of losing the experience of those old people + the negative of stripping a huge group of current voters of their voting rights?
  - seydor 3y ago
    is not doing it more fair?
- graphe 3y ago
  Why?
  - seydor 3y ago
    Why not? Why don't we give children the right to vote? (even if delegated to their parents - might help with failing demographics too). What is the rationale behind the current rules anyway
    - graphe 3y ago
      Until you give a good reason why, your idea is as thoughtful as the effort you put into it.
      - seydor 3y ago
        as stated, for equality reasons
        graphe 3y ago
        Equality is meaningless. Why should we not have the same amount of ears as noses? That is inequality. Why should we use one fork instead of two for equality of the use of our hands and symmetry? Why not our keyboards be mirrored and equal too?
        seydor 3y ago
        the whole point of a democratic state is power to the many. Maybe not to all, but certainly not unequally.
        graphe 3y ago
        That's not the point, and I doubt you live in a democracy. If you live in the US it's not even described as one.
dietr1ch 3y ago
30 might be enough these days, it seems I won't get to own a home and I don't really want to work 2 days a week for the government and one and a half to pay for my landlord's mortgage. Many are settling with getting pets, traveling a bit and not a lot more.

This. Young people are way too grumpy these days, more than the old farts i know, who tend to enjoy their lives overall and are nice to others.

bongobingo1 3y ago
Gee I wonder why.

seydor 3y ago

no but , just as we are removing teenagers from the voting population, we should also be removing an equal number of voters from the other side of the age spectrum

dietr1ch 3y ago
It shouldn't be equal as the older ones won't face the consequences of their votes
swores 3y ago
Equal in quantity? So if the number of <18yos is X and there are X people over the age of 90 then that's the cut off, but if the following election there were far fewer old people then there might now be X over 70s so the cutoff gets redrawn there? Seems quite awkward operationally even if everyone agrees with the principle behind it. And even if you agree that it's problematic when older voters sway decisions that will affect future generations more than them, does matching the number of non-voters at each end of the spectrum solve that? And does the solution bring more benefits than the negatives of losing the experience of those old people + the negative of stripping a huge group of current voters of their voting rights?
- seydor 3y ago
  is not doing it more fair?
graphe 3y ago
Why?
- seydor 3y ago
  Why not? Why don't we give children the right to vote? (even if delegated to their parents - might help with failing demographics too). What is the rationale behind the current rules anyway
  - graphe 3y ago
    Until you give a good reason why, your idea is as thoughtful as the effort you put into it.
    - seydor 3y ago
      as stated, for equality reasons
      - graphe 3y ago
        Equality is meaningless. Why should we not have the same amount of ears as noses? That is inequality. Why should we use one fork instead of two for equality of the use of our hands and symmetry? Why not our keyboards be mirrored and equal too?
        seydor 3y ago
        the whole point of a democratic state is power to the many. Maybe not to all, but certainly not unequally.
        graphe 3y ago
        That's not the point, and I doubt you live in a democracy. If you live in the US it's not even described as one.

dietr1ch 3y ago

30 might be enough these days, it seems I won't get to own a home and I don't really want to work 2 days a week for the government and one and a half to pay for my landlord's mortgage. Many are settling with getting pets, traveling a bit and not a lot more.