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In case you don't know about it, make sure to check out SponsorBlock, which optionally, automatically skips parts you don't want to see like for example sponsor

by jraph 3y ago

In case you don't know about it, make sure to check out SponsorBlock, which optionally, automatically skips parts you don't want to see like for example sponsors (but not only). You can use this awesome DB for what you want to do. And also Invidious. And also their combination. User of both, I'm unaffected by the recent adblocking issues on YouTube and I can still subscribe to channels, reliably. Without any Google account. (by the way, a simple regular RSS feed reader would do, since YouTube provides RSS feeds for each channel, but Invidious is a really convenient, specialized UI for this, without the notification / algorithm issues that seem to plague YouTube wrt this, but I digress) All these issues are already solved by these projects. I guess one could consider contributing to them (financially or with code for instance). The official YouTube frontend actually don't need no love, others already achieve what we want. Piped, NewPipe and FreeTube are also projects to look into (I loved NewPipe when I had a smartphone, Piped looks very good too and FreeTube looks interesting but I know less about them).

gustavus 3y ago
> In case you don't know about it, make sure to check out SponsorBlock So I don't love ads but mostly because of the privacy invasion they represent, but sponsorships I have a lot less of a problem with. Oftentimes sponsorships will have at least marginal connection with what in watch (most of the time looking at you NordVPN and Raid Shadow Legends) but to me sponsorships are the happy middle ground that allows creators to get some recompense for their labors without turning everything into an adscape dystopia. Really I don't have a problem with ads on websites back in the day as long as they were somewhat tasteful, which they often were because the creator worked to integrate them into their work, but the constant user surveillance and spamming random nonsensical ads are what bugged me. I mean some channels that I frequent have even turned the sponsorships into additional entertaining content (check out Ryan George's the Adstronaut or Viva La Dirt League).
- jraph 3y ago
  Yeah, I personally hate sponsor segments but strongly sympathize with your view. I'm currently looking for a way to donate to the stuff I watch instead.
- bee_rider 3y ago
  Ad based businesses also have an incentive to maximize attention and interaction rather than enjoyment, education, or user happiness. We’ve played a few rounds of this game, we’re dumber, sadder, and more politically polarized for it.
saturn8601 3y ago
Any open source player client for iOS? Does not seem like any of the listed ones are compatible with iOS.
- Manuel_D 3y ago
  Unless you're willing to root your phone, or use a developer certificate to run an unofficial app, I don't think there's any chance of getting an 3rd party youtube client on iOS. They're breaking youtube's TOS which is why they have to be side loaded on android.
  - saturn8601 3y ago
    I am willing to use a developer certificate to run unofficial apps...if there is code available i'd be happy to compile and load it onto my phone. I don't think there is though. I just cannot go back to Android after years of dealing with garbage(I owned all the Nexus phones and gave up after Nexus 5) so my options have been to limit phone usage in favor of Desktop + start working on as many homemade/ open source versions of iPhone apps that I use as possible. Luckily most apps i'd be likely to have installed are just some downloaded data(text, audio, video) and some buttons. How hard can it be to scrape and rip the content and make my own container to serve that data? For other apps like Youtube alternatives I am in search of an app.
- eiiot 3y ago
  uYou+ is good, I use it regularly. Especially with a developer certificate.
  - saturn8601 3y ago
    Thanks, will check it out!
- jraph 3y ago
  Invidious and Piped should actually work quite well. Not apps, but work fine in a browser. That's what I'm using on the PinePhone and on regular computers. Though I don't know if Safari still has limitations that make it a pain to use. Invidious is a pain on the iPad 2 because of some dumb design decisions in Safari but I expect it to have improved since then. And maybe third party browsers will at last be allowed on iOS through third party stores, maybe also allowing SponsorBlock to be used on this platform. I'm missing some features like being able to select a play next video easily, so I may look into writing an Invidious-based client of some sort for this, but they are so many things to do for a strongly limited time. Maybe Piped has the features I'd like to have, I should check it out.
Hikikomori 3y ago
Smarttube on my tv (Nvidia shield), revanced on phone and Vivaldi with ublock, no YouTube ads anywhere.
- xvector 3y ago
  I just pay for Premium instead of grifting. Planetary-scale server farms and video hosting is not free.
  - oaththrowaway 3y ago
    They harvest everything I do online without my consent or permission without paying me. Fair is fair
    - dangus 3y ago
      You consented by using the service. You don’t have to use YouTube.
      - oaththrowaway 3y ago
        I don't consent on every other site that uses google analytics? And last time I checked, consent isn't implied.
        recursive 3y ago
        Disable third party cookies.
        oaththrowaway 3y ago
        But then Google won't know everything about me so that would be immoral of me to do
        recursive 3y ago
Lamad1234 3y ago
I don't mind sponsor ads..
- nullandvoid 3y ago
  Do you not get bored of spending ~10% of the total time you watch videos being spent on largely brainrot gambling / predatory game advertisements?
  - true_religion 3y ago
    I don’t know what you watch, but the videos I watch just have sponsorships for jewelry and other luxury products. It’s not really worth it for me to block fashion sponsors who tell me what is popular, when I would otherwise have to go research to find the same information.
    - nullandvoid 3y ago
      Fair, I have never seen a single jewellery / luxury sponsor (It's more Raycon, Raid shadow legends etc for me), however I wouldn't ever purchase them even if I did. My experience is that most sponsors are overpriced, largely garbage products, that they must pay YouTube to promote in order to sell.
  - Lamad1234 3y ago
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by jraph 3y ago

gustavus 3y ago

> In case you don't know about it, make sure to check out SponsorBlock So I don't love ads but mostly because of the privacy invasion they represent, but sponsorships I have a lot less of a problem with. Oftentimes sponsorships will have at least marginal connection with what in watch (most of the time looking at you NordVPN and Raid Shadow Legends) but to me sponsorships are the happy middle ground that allows creators to get some recompense for their labors without turning everything into an adscape dystopia. Really I don't have a problem with ads on websites back in the day as long as they were somewhat tasteful, which they often were because the creator worked to integrate them into their work, but the constant user surveillance and spamming random nonsensical ads are what bugged me. I mean some channels that I frequent have even turned the sponsorships into additional entertaining content (check out Ryan George's the Adstronaut or Viva La Dirt League).

jraph 3y ago
Yeah, I personally hate sponsor segments but strongly sympathize with your view. I'm currently looking for a way to donate to the stuff I watch instead.
bee_rider 3y ago
Ad based businesses also have an incentive to maximize attention and interaction rather than enjoyment, education, or user happiness. We’ve played a few rounds of this game, we’re dumber, sadder, and more politically polarized for it.

saturn8601 3y ago

Any open source player client for iOS? Does not seem like any of the listed ones are compatible with iOS.

Manuel_D 3y ago
Unless you're willing to root your phone, or use a developer certificate to run an unofficial app, I don't think there's any chance of getting an 3rd party youtube client on iOS. They're breaking youtube's TOS which is why they have to be side loaded on android.
- saturn8601 3y ago
  I am willing to use a developer certificate to run unofficial apps...if there is code available i'd be happy to compile and load it onto my phone. I don't think there is though. I just cannot go back to Android after years of dealing with garbage(I owned all the Nexus phones and gave up after Nexus 5) so my options have been to limit phone usage in favor of Desktop + start working on as many homemade/ open source versions of iPhone apps that I use as possible. Luckily most apps i'd be likely to have installed are just some downloaded data(text, audio, video) and some buttons. How hard can it be to scrape and rip the content and make my own container to serve that data? For other apps like Youtube alternatives I am in search of an app.
eiiot 3y ago
uYou+ is good, I use it regularly. Especially with a developer certificate.
- saturn8601 3y ago
  Thanks, will check it out!
jraph 3y ago
Invidious and Piped should actually work quite well. Not apps, but work fine in a browser. That's what I'm using on the PinePhone and on regular computers. Though I don't know if Safari still has limitations that make it a pain to use. Invidious is a pain on the iPad 2 because of some dumb design decisions in Safari but I expect it to have improved since then. And maybe third party browsers will at last be allowed on iOS through third party stores, maybe also allowing SponsorBlock to be used on this platform. I'm missing some features like being able to select a play next video easily, so I may look into writing an Invidious-based client of some sort for this, but they are so many things to do for a strongly limited time. Maybe Piped has the features I'd like to have, I should check it out.

Hikikomori 3y ago

Smarttube on my tv (Nvidia shield), revanced on phone and Vivaldi with ublock, no YouTube ads anywhere.

xvector 3y ago
I just pay for Premium instead of grifting. Planetary-scale server farms and video hosting is not free.
- oaththrowaway 3y ago
  They harvest everything I do online without my consent or permission without paying me. Fair is fair
  - dangus 3y ago
    You consented by using the service. You don’t have to use YouTube.
    - oaththrowaway 3y ago
      I don't consent on every other site that uses google analytics? And last time I checked, consent isn't implied.
      - recursive 3y ago
        Disable third party cookies.
        oaththrowaway 3y ago
        But then Google won't know everything about me so that would be immoral of me to do
        recursive 3y ago

Lamad1234 3y ago

I don't mind sponsor ads..

nullandvoid 3y ago
Do you not get bored of spending ~10% of the total time you watch videos being spent on largely brainrot gambling / predatory game advertisements?
- true_religion 3y ago
  I don’t know what you watch, but the videos I watch just have sponsorships for jewelry and other luxury products. It’s not really worth it for me to block fashion sponsors who tell me what is popular, when I would otherwise have to go research to find the same information.
  - nullandvoid 3y ago
    Fair, I have never seen a single jewellery / luxury sponsor (It's more Raycon, Raid shadow legends etc for me), however I wouldn't ever purchase them even if I did. My experience is that most sponsors are overpriced, largely garbage products, that they must pay YouTube to promote in order to sell.
- Lamad1234 3y ago
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