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This is literally just racism.
by nmilo 3y ago
This is literally just racism.
- gorbachev 3y agoNo. Russian is not a race. It's bigotry, however.
- 15155 3y agoWhich race is being implicated?
- mlyle 3y agoNo, attempting to prevent money from flowing into a country which is actively waging war against neighbors is not racism.
- mm263 3y agoHe is in Chile. The company linked was liquidated in 2021 (including other companies called Sarafan that he created in the past). How did you deduce that money goes to Russia?
- practice9 3y ago[flagged]
- mm263 3y agoI'd argue that we should deport all Russian citizens back to Russia from all of the countries then! Why stop at Chile?
- victorbjorklund 3y agoCan we guarantee that he has no family or friends in russia that he sends money to? Or that he hires russian contractors etc?
- AlexBarabash 3y agoCan we guarantee the same thing about you? What stops you from hiring Russian contractors and paying them in crypto? Of course, you can say: 'Well, he is Russian, so it is more likely that he does that, so it is fair to treat him with more suspicion.' And you know what? Some other people might say: 'Well, this guy is black, and black guys are more likely to commit crimes, so it makes sense if we follow him around the store to make sure that he doesn't steal anything.' And some other people might say: 'Well, he looks like he might be a Muslim, and radical Islamists are more likely to be terrorists, so it is fair that we select him for some additional screening at the airport.' Would you agree with all those people as well? And if not, what do you think is the difference between you and them?
- nmilo 3y agoYou're right actually, I forgot all Russians share a bank account with Putin.
- ponector 3y agoEvery person who use russian currency is sharing accounts with putin. Every transaction is taxed with VAT, which goes to support government and war.
- nlitened 3y agoRight, not the billions paid for Russian oil and gas by western countries.
- ponector 3y agoDo you think that your fact will negate mine? And yes, sanctions are half baked and poorly enforced. "West" continues trading with Russia.
- Aeolun 3y agoNot particularly, but it probably does make yours irrelevant. Russians overseas send a grand total of $5M back to the country every month. Europe purchases a few million tons of oil, $5B/year. Numbers made up, and just for illustrative purposes.
- mlyle 3y ago> Numbers made up, and just for illustrative purposes. Which makes it pretty dishonest, especially when you augment it with mixing month and year ;) > Russians overseas send a grand total of $5M back to the country every month. Remittances to Russian individuals are like $25B/year; this is a whole lot. Yah, oil industry revenues are 10x higher (after having about a 20-30% bite taken out of them by sanctions), but of course, in order to get that revenue a decent chunk of the hard currency has to flow back out of Russia to pay for various O&G related expenses. It would be nice, of course, to trim down the O&G revenues more, but any policy actions that countries take against a hostile state need to hurt the adversary more than themselves, and it's not too clear how to go further on O&G and meet this criteria.
- LAC-Tech 3y agoThanks, I'll be sure to make a huge deal everytime I see software from Israel
- kalleboo 3y agoBoycotts against Israeli products have been a thing for over a decade
- ponector 3y agoGovernments everywhere along the globe are enforcing discriminatory rules based on passport and/or birthplace. And everyone is ok with such "racism".
- nmilo 3y agoIf a border agent called me suspicious based only on my passport then yeah that is racism
- ponector 3y agoThen US government is one of the most racist government on the planet. And people support it or don't care. By applying tons of restrictions to the people based on their passport or place of birth. For example getting a green card for Indian people. Or visiting US. What is frictionless for people with Swiss passport is almost impossible for people with "hostile" passport. Getting a US travel visa is not trivial.
- mike_d 3y ago> Then US government is one of the most racist government on the planet. ... For example getting a green card for Indian people. As an American it is basically impossible for me to immigrate to India and establish citizenship without my parents being Indian and knowing an official language fluently or by "investing" approximately $2 million USD and hiring at least 20 people to work for me.
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