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Is this entire article based on the Reuters news that came out yesterday? The news that amounted to "Two guys in the alley told us some stuff, but we can't veri

Is this entire article based on the Reuters news that came out yesterday? The news that amounted to "Two guys in the alley told us some stuff, but we can't verify any of it" This feels like laundering news; all the "We weren't able to confirm the truth of these statements"' have been removed. https://www.reuters.com/technology/sam-altmans-ouster-openai-was-precipitated-by-letter-board-about-ai-breakthrough-2023-11-22/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/sam-altmans-ouster-openai...

dgritsko 3y ago
It's a great headline that feeds right in to the rest of the OpenAI drama, which is undoubtedly why it's all over the place. But I'm with you - where are the details?
api 3y ago
We don’t have very much journalism anymore. We have click bait sites that reprint stuff they got from social media and comment sections.
righthand 3y ago
It’s funny to talk about details because the entire OpenAI staff used vague media reporting to get their way when Altman was ousted and yet no one really has any concrete details about that. So nice they can cause a huge frenzy and then walk away in silence after it’s over because they got a payday. Suddenly any information is none of our business.
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patcon 3y ago
From the Reuters article you linked, the only hit from "ctrl+f confirm" now says: > Researchers have also flagged work by an "AI scientist" team, the existence of which multiple sources confirmed. Maybe it firmed up in the 6h-ago update, and so other sources started publishing more widely? I'm realizing I need to get in the habit of re-reading source materials, instead of going off memory on an evolving story like this :)
- philipov 3y ago
  Yeah, the article is like 3 times longer than it was yesterday around 6pm ET when it was posted. It was barely 5 paragraphs then.
  - mgiannopoulos 3y ago
    > It was barely 5 paragraphs then. It has been a very bad trend on mass media to not properly inform about the different versions of the same article. Sometimes their entire narrative changes with no indication of what the article originally was about.
- evrydayhustling 3y ago
  They've confirmed that there is an "AI scientist team" at OpenAI??? Sounds like a lot of journalism happened in between those updates.

dgritsko 3y ago

It's a great headline that feeds right in to the rest of the OpenAI drama, which is undoubtedly why it's all over the place. But I'm with you - where are the details?

api 3y ago

We don’t have very much journalism anymore. We have click bait sites that reprint stuff they got from social media and comment sections.

righthand 3y ago

It’s funny to talk about details because the entire OpenAI staff used vague media reporting to get their way when Altman was ousted and yet no one really has any concrete details about that. So nice they can cause a huge frenzy and then walk away in silence after it’s over because they got a payday. Suddenly any information is none of our business.

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patcon 3y ago

From the Reuters article you linked, the only hit from "ctrl+f confirm" now says: > Researchers have also flagged work by an "AI scientist" team, the existence of which multiple sources confirmed. Maybe it firmed up in the 6h-ago update, and so other sources started publishing more widely? I'm realizing I need to get in the habit of re-reading source materials, instead of going off memory on an evolving story like this :)

philipov 3y ago
Yeah, the article is like 3 times longer than it was yesterday around 6pm ET when it was posted. It was barely 5 paragraphs then.
- mgiannopoulos 3y ago
  > It was barely 5 paragraphs then. It has been a very bad trend on mass media to not properly inform about the different versions of the same article. Sometimes their entire narrative changes with no indication of what the article originally was about.
evrydayhustling 3y ago
They've confirmed that there is an "AI scientist team" at OpenAI??? Sounds like a lot of journalism happened in between those updates.