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> Remarkably, the letter’s signees include Ilya Sutskever, the company’s CTO who has been blamed for coordinating the boardroom coup against Altman in the first
by georgehill 3y ago
> Remarkably, the letter’s signees include Ilya Sutskever, the company’s CTO who has been blamed for coordinating the boardroom coup against Altman in the first place.
What in the world is happening at OpenAI?
- biglyburrito 3y agoSounds like a classic case of FAFO to me.
- civilitty 3y agoWho fucked around and who found out, exactly?? We the unsuspecting public?
- systemvoltage 3y agoIlya FA Ilya FO (in process)
- pk-protect-ai 3y agoHe didn't strike me as a type to brainlessly FA.
- systemvoltage 3y agoYea, check out his presentations on YT. Incredible talent. What strikes me is that he wrote the regretful participation tweet after witnessing the blowback. He should have written it right with the initial news. And clearly explain employees. This is not a smart way to conduct board oversight. 500 employees are not happy. I’m siding with the employees (esp early hires), they deserve to be part of once in a lifetime company like OpenAI after working there for years.
- chasd00 3y agoHe could be an expert in some areas but in others… not so much.
- kaibee 3y agoThe thing about being really smart is that you can find incredible gambles.
- password54321 3y ago"if you value intelligence above all other human qualities, you’re gonna have a bad time"
- pk-protect-ai 3y agoGPT-4 Turbo took control of the startup and fcks around ...
- newsclues 3y agoAdam D'Angelo?
- benjaminwootton 3y agoThere must be something going on which is not in the public domain. What an utterly bizarre turn of events, and to have it all played out in public. A $90 billion valuation at stake too!
- mrits 3y agoI wonder how many people are on a path for a $250K/year salary instead of $30M in the bank now.
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- nemo44x 3y agoIt’s looks like about 505.
- postingawayonhn 3y agoMicrosoft can easily afford to offer them $30M of options each if they continue to ship such important products. That's only $15B for 500 staff. Microsoft has a $2.75T market value and over $140B of cash.
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago> Microsoft can easily afford to offer them $30M of options each But it doesn’t have to. And the politics suggest it very likely won’t.
- mrits 3y agoMicrosoft isn't going to give the employees in HR equivalent offers. There are a lot of people in the company that wouldn't provide much value to the new team at MS.
- basch 3y agoIf it weren’t so unbelievable, I’d almost accuse them of orchestrating all this to sell to Microsoft without the regulatory scrutiny. It’s like they distressed the company to make an acquisition one of mercy instead of aggression, knowing they already had their buyer lined up.
- sigmoid10 3y agoYeah, I also started out believing this must be a principle thing between Ilya and Sam. But no, this smells more and more like a corporate clusterfuck and Ilya was just an easy to manipulate puppet. This alleged statement from the board that destroying the company is an acceptable outcome is completely insane, but somewhat reasonable when combined with the fact that half the board has some serious conflict of interest going on.
- jordanpg 3y agoI haven't seen brand suicide like this since EM dumped Twitter for X!!! (4 months ago)
- benterix 3y agoIt's nothing like it. What common people use is ChatGPT, many of them never heard about OpenAI, not even mention who sits on the board etc. And their core offering is more popular than ever. With Twitter, Musk started to damage the product itself, step by step. As far as I can tell ChatGPT continues to work just fine, as opposed to X.
- smegger001 3y agoOpen ai users arent chatgpts users its developers.
- benterix 3y agoActually it's both with developers being a relatively small minority.
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- fourside 3y agoThe OpenAI board's messaging around this has been absolutely atrocious. The reporting had Ilya at the center of getting rid of Altman, and how he's signing a letter asking the board to resign? Maybe he was trying to do the right thing, but he's absolutely destroyed his credibility as a leader.
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- 0xDEF 3y agoIlya is much less active on Twitter than the others. The rumors that blamed him emerged and spread like wildfire and he did nothing to stop it because he probably only checks Twitter once a week.
- saagarjha 3y agoOne would think that he would be on Twitter this week.
- NateEag 3y ago> One would think that he would be on Twitter this week. Or maybe _this_ week he would need to spend his time doing something productive.
- enginaar 3y agolooks like found his twitter password https://x.com/ilyasut/status/1726590052392956028?s=20 https://x.com/ilyasut/status/1726590052392956028?s=20
- timeon 3y agoWhy? To entertain bystanders like us?
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- johannes1234321 3y agoMore like spending time in calls with board members, coworkers, investors, partners, ... and often it is better not to say something, than saying something which then is misinterpreted overtaken by other reality.
- qup 3y agonot this week, trust me
- sigmar 3y agoHe says he regrets his action, so he's not blameless. and it wouldn't have been possible for 3/6ths of the board to oust Brockman and Altman without his vote. My bet (entirely conjecture) is that Ilya now realizes the other three will refuse to leave their board seats even if it means the company melts to the ground.
- zeven7 3y agoWhat options are left other than Adam D'Angelo orchestrated the downfall of a competitor to Poe?
- DonHopkins 3y ago"I am NOT a BELLBOY!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8oVTKG39U8&t=27s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8oVTKG39U8&t=27s
- dougmwne 3y ago(Rips off mask) Wow, it was the Quora CEO all along! So this was never about safety or any such bullshit. It’s because GTPs store was in direct competition with Poe!?
- artursapek 3y agoImagine letting the CEO of a simple question and answer site that blurs all of its content onto your board
- nemo44x 3y agoAnd that he might be the least incompetent of them all.
- achates 3y agoAlongside luminaries like "the wife of the guy who played Robin in the Batman movie".
- artursapek 3y agolol is that a real thing?
- brianjking 3y agoAbsolutely mindboggling that Adam is on the board. Poe has direct competition with the GPTs and the "revenue sharing" plan that Sam released on Dev day. The Poe Platform has their "Creators" build your own bot and monetize it, including OpenAI and other models.
- dougmwne 3y agoEven more interesting considering that Elon left OpenAI’s board when Tesla started developing Autopilot as it was seen as a conflict of interest.
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- manojlds 3y agoDid it originally say CTO? Ilya is not CTO and it's been corrected now.
- sage76 3y agoThere's definitely more to this than just Ilya vs Sam.
- Tenoke 3y agoAt this point either pretty much all the speculation here and on Twitter was wrong, or they've threatened to kneecap him.
- capableweb 3y ago> What in the world is happening at OpenAI? Well, we don't know. What we do know, is that the "coordinating the boardroom coup against Altman" is a rumor and speculation about a thing we don't know anything about.
- cmrdporcupine 3y agoOk... so this is not the scenario any of us were imagining? Ilya S vs Altman isn't what went down? JFC.
- ignoramous 3y agoThe signatories want Bret Taylor and Will Hurd running the new Board, apparently. > We will take this step imminently, unless all current board members resign, and the board appoints two new lead independent directors, such as Bret Taylor and Will Hurd, and reinstates Sam Altman and Greg Brockman.
- thundergolfer 3y agoGoogling Will Hurd only shows up a Republican politician with a history at the CIA. Is that the right guy? Can't be.
- singularity2001 3y agoPlease not another Eric Smith NSA shill running the show. on the other hand it was inevitable. either the government controls the most important companies secretly as in China or openly as in the US.
- RivieraKid 3y agoThe screenwriters are overdoing it at this point.
- duckmysick 3y agoUnderstandable, they were on a strike for a long time. Now that they are back, they are itching to release all the good stuff.
- ibaikov 3y agoSexual misconduct. Ilya protects Sam by not letting this spiral out in media.
- fzeindl 3y agoMaybe they found AGI and it is now controlling the board #andsoitbegins.
- cs702 3y agoNone of it makes sense to me now. Who is really behind this? How did they pull this off? Why did do it? Why do it so suddenly, in a terribly disorganized way? If I may paraphrase Churchill: This has become a bit of a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.
- Applejinx 3y agoIt's extrazordinary to watch, I'll say that much. I still think 'Altman's Basilisk' is a thing: I think somewhere in this mess there's actions taken to wrest control of an AI from somebody, probably Altman. Altman's Basilisk also represents the idea that if a charismatic and flawed person (and everything I've seen, including the adulation, suggests Altman is that type of person from that type of background) trains an AI in their image, they can induce their own characteristics in the AI. Therefore, if you're a paranoid with a persecution complex and a zero-sum perspective on things, you can through training induce an AI to also have those characteristics, which may well persist as the AI 'takes off' and reaches superhuman intelligence. This is not unlike humans (perhaps including Altman) experiencing and perpetuating trauma as children, and then growing to adulthood and gaining greatly expanded intelligence that is heavily, even overwhelmingly, conditioned by those formative axioms that were unquestioned in childhood.
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- soderfoo 3y agoWatching all this drama unfold in the public is unprecedented. I guess it makes sense. There has never been a company like OpenAI, in terms or governance and product, so I guess it makes sense that their drama leads us in to unchartered territory.
- brianjking 3y agoI guess this is the Open in OpenAI, eh? Absolutely bonkers.
- lysecret 3y agoThat settles it it has to be the AGI orchestrating it all.
- siva7 3y agoProbably trying to shift the blame to the other three board members. It could be true to some degree. No matter what, it's clear to the public that they don't have the competency to sit on any board.
- smegger001 3y agoIt French revolution time over there. heads are flying angry mobs. Fun times