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I click on the file and "open with handbrake" and press "convert". I can't imagine how anything night be faster.

by riffraff 3y ago

ekianjo 3y ago
Not obvious how to make a file smaller with handbrake without a lot of trial and error
- chii 3y ago
  isn't that exactly the same with ffmpeg? The handbrake GUI has a drop down list of encoding presets. I find that as an amateur, selecting one of those presets is the best way to make a file smaller.
  - ekianjo 3y ago
    Handbrake is supposed to make things simpler than ffmpeg, except that it does not. > I find that as an amateur, selecting one of those presets is the best way to make a file smaller. These presets are not helpful when you want to try to make something specific like "I want to make this file fit in 3GB" which is something that an amateur typically wants to achieve. It's not even that hard to actually do, which makes me wonder why Handbrake has never implemented this kind of things.
    - getwiththeprog 3y ago
      I agree with ekianjo, it would be great if Handbrake had a 'fit to 700MB' option. After trial and error, I found the original file size to be preserved and not to correspond to the presumed smaller output of say a lower resolution output.
      - sp332 3y ago
        You can do this with a two-pass encode and a calculator. Take your desired filesize and divide by the runtime of the video. Put that bitrate into the UI. (It does seem they could add this to the program.) It would also work with a one-pass encode, but setting the bitrate that way risks wasting space in simple parts of the video and degrading quality in complex parts. Two-pass encoding takes longer but distributes bandwidth better.
    - The_Colonel 3y ago
      Given how CD/DVD/BluRay went out of mainstream, I think the more typical use case is "I want the file smaller, while retaiming FullHD, HD, SD quality" for archival / streaming, for which the profiles are fine.
      - sgarland 3y ago
        > "I want the file smaller, while retaiming [sic] FullHD, HD, SD quality" The problem is that "retaining X quality" is extremely vague and subjective. Also, a lot of people conflate resolution with quality (see YIFY Torrents). While yes, you need enough pixels to have reasonable quality, if the encoder set CRF to 50, 8K video won't save you.
      - ekianjo 3y ago
        Handbrake gives you no indication whatsoever what quality you are getting at the end of the day. Even though it's technically possible to do many things in that regard (make previous of different compression rates and let the user decide, or draw comparison of video clips before and after compression highlighting where the image details are lost, etc...). There's very little that is user-friendly in Handbrake.
        chii 3y ago
        you're conflating user-friendliness with user power and capability. An app can be very user friendly, but does not give the user the power they didnt know they wanted. This is what handbrake is - you get a nice GUI, you get to choose from a list of presets (unless you know what you're doing and customize it). Then you click go - you can even queue up more files. Someone who is using handbrake is not going to learn the command line. How would they know how to queue up ffmpeg? Don't say batch scripts, because that's not something a normal user would use.
        mpeg 3y ago
        I feel everyone saying handbrake is fine have never used it; it’s the least user friendly app ever. Much easier to google / llm for the right ffmpeg arguments
- caycep 3y ago
  Melton’s transcoding tools for one
- acomjean 3y ago
  I haven’t used in a while, but handbrake did have really useful presets for a variety of devices: it was useful because there are a lot of video compression knobs to turn (you can still do so after selecting the preset) It seems like presets still exist. https://handbrake.fr/docs/en/latest/technical/official-presets.html https://handbrake.fr/docs/en/latest/technical/official-prese...
josephg 3y ago
Handbrake can also rip dvds, if you give it the external libraries needed to decode them. The UI is great for finding the track with the actual movie and pulling in all the audio tracks and subtitles you want.
- MrJohz 3y ago
  I have used this in the past, but I've never been able to get the subtitles to sync up properly. Typically they're copied over, but the first subtitle will start as soon as the video starts (as opposed to when the first spoken words start) and end when the video ends, with all the rest of the subtitles spaced out apparently according to the correct proportions, just at the wrong times. I've tried fiddling around with when the subtitles should start, but because the subtitles end up stretched out so much, that makes all the later subtitles wrong. And I'm typically ripping a bunch of TV shows, so I want to do as little manual work as possible for each episode, because that all adds up quickly. Do you know if I'm missing a library or a setting somewhere? Maybe I just need to try again with the latest version and see if it's been fixed over time.
  - galad87 3y ago
    HandBrake requires a patched version of libavcodec/libavformat libraries. Some Linux distributions like to link it to their system libavcodec/libavformat versions, and this breaks many things, DVD subtitles too. However, if you are using a version that's linked with the right libraries, it's probably a bug that should be reported.
    - ellisv 3y ago
      I think the problem is linking to the “right libraries”. I tried using the libraries from MakeMKV but found it easier to just two step the process.
  - defrost 3y ago
    Subtitles are an issue because even if they're "correct" from source (as a synced track) they often have other issues, raw subtitles are still very much YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary). If you care enough about subtitles and are converting for future reference then it's worth using SubtitleEdit to correct | align | correct case | spell check | generate translations | etc and then merge final (video + audio) tracks from HB with SubtitleTracks using (say) MKV Toolnix. https://nikse.dk/SubtitleEdit/ https://nikse.dk/SubtitleEdit/ https://mkvtoolnix.download/ https://mkvtoolnix.download/ These are tools that can be streamlined and batched (with some degree of learning curve). > so I want to do as little manual work as possible for each episode I typically transcode Audio+Video, seperate out subtitles automatically along with "most common least destructive" touchups scripted and then watch. You can achieve this by dropping input file in a watched folder and having the results plopped out in a "to be viewed" folder. Most of the time everything is A-OK .. when the syncing is out I correct it via SubtitleEdit and continue watching. You can save Episode.mkv and Episode.srt together, or batch bind the srt into the mkv as you store OR you can go to town with multiple subtitles if you're a media meta data nerd.
johnvanommen 3y ago
> I click on the file and "open with handbrake" and press "convert". I can't imagine how anything night be faster. I use both. One thing I prefer about ffmpeg is that I prefer it when I'm being a control freak. Basically, if I'm encoding a lot of videos, I will sometimes fail to notice that some box has been ticked in Handbrake, that will screw up my encode. In particular, Handbrake always defaults to resizing my videos, 100% of the time, and I always have to turn that off manually. If I fail to do that, it will resize my videos and I'll end up wasting an hour doing encodes, or 3-4 hours if I'm using CPU instead of GPU.

I click on the file and "open with handbrake" and press "convert". I can't imagine how anything night be faster.

ekianjo 3y ago

Not obvious how to make a file smaller with handbrake without a lot of trial and error

chii 3y ago
isn't that exactly the same with ffmpeg? The handbrake GUI has a drop down list of encoding presets. I find that as an amateur, selecting one of those presets is the best way to make a file smaller.
- ekianjo 3y ago
  Handbrake is supposed to make things simpler than ffmpeg, except that it does not. > I find that as an amateur, selecting one of those presets is the best way to make a file smaller. These presets are not helpful when you want to try to make something specific like "I want to make this file fit in 3GB" which is something that an amateur typically wants to achieve. It's not even that hard to actually do, which makes me wonder why Handbrake has never implemented this kind of things.
  - getwiththeprog 3y ago
    I agree with ekianjo, it would be great if Handbrake had a 'fit to 700MB' option. After trial and error, I found the original file size to be preserved and not to correspond to the presumed smaller output of say a lower resolution output.
    - sp332 3y ago
      You can do this with a two-pass encode and a calculator. Take your desired filesize and divide by the runtime of the video. Put that bitrate into the UI. (It does seem they could add this to the program.) It would also work with a one-pass encode, but setting the bitrate that way risks wasting space in simple parts of the video and degrading quality in complex parts. Two-pass encoding takes longer but distributes bandwidth better.
  - The_Colonel 3y ago
    Given how CD/DVD/BluRay went out of mainstream, I think the more typical use case is "I want the file smaller, while retaiming FullHD, HD, SD quality" for archival / streaming, for which the profiles are fine.
    - sgarland 3y ago
      > "I want the file smaller, while retaiming [sic] FullHD, HD, SD quality" The problem is that "retaining X quality" is extremely vague and subjective. Also, a lot of people conflate resolution with quality (see YIFY Torrents). While yes, you need enough pixels to have reasonable quality, if the encoder set CRF to 50, 8K video won't save you.
    - ekianjo 3y ago
      Handbrake gives you no indication whatsoever what quality you are getting at the end of the day. Even though it's technically possible to do many things in that regard (make previous of different compression rates and let the user decide, or draw comparison of video clips before and after compression highlighting where the image details are lost, etc...). There's very little that is user-friendly in Handbrake.
      - chii 3y ago
        you're conflating user-friendliness with user power and capability. An app can be very user friendly, but does not give the user the power they didnt know they wanted. This is what handbrake is - you get a nice GUI, you get to choose from a list of presets (unless you know what you're doing and customize it). Then you click go - you can even queue up more files. Someone who is using handbrake is not going to learn the command line. How would they know how to queue up ffmpeg? Don't say batch scripts, because that's not something a normal user would use.
      - mpeg 3y ago
        I feel everyone saying handbrake is fine have never used it; it’s the least user friendly app ever. Much easier to google / llm for the right ffmpeg arguments
caycep 3y ago
Melton’s transcoding tools for one
acomjean 3y ago
I haven’t used in a while, but handbrake did have really useful presets for a variety of devices: it was useful because there are a lot of video compression knobs to turn (you can still do so after selecting the preset) It seems like presets still exist. https://handbrake.fr/docs/en/latest/technical/official-presets.html https://handbrake.fr/docs/en/latest/technical/official-prese...

josephg 3y ago

Handbrake can also rip dvds, if you give it the external libraries needed to decode them. The UI is great for finding the track with the actual movie and pulling in all the audio tracks and subtitles you want.

MrJohz 3y ago
I have used this in the past, but I've never been able to get the subtitles to sync up properly. Typically they're copied over, but the first subtitle will start as soon as the video starts (as opposed to when the first spoken words start) and end when the video ends, with all the rest of the subtitles spaced out apparently according to the correct proportions, just at the wrong times. I've tried fiddling around with when the subtitles should start, but because the subtitles end up stretched out so much, that makes all the later subtitles wrong. And I'm typically ripping a bunch of TV shows, so I want to do as little manual work as possible for each episode, because that all adds up quickly. Do you know if I'm missing a library or a setting somewhere? Maybe I just need to try again with the latest version and see if it's been fixed over time.
- galad87 3y ago
  HandBrake requires a patched version of libavcodec/libavformat libraries. Some Linux distributions like to link it to their system libavcodec/libavformat versions, and this breaks many things, DVD subtitles too. However, if you are using a version that's linked with the right libraries, it's probably a bug that should be reported.
  - ellisv 3y ago
    I think the problem is linking to the “right libraries”. I tried using the libraries from MakeMKV but found it easier to just two step the process.
- defrost 3y ago
  Subtitles are an issue because even if they're "correct" from source (as a synced track) they often have other issues, raw subtitles are still very much YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary). If you care enough about subtitles and are converting for future reference then it's worth using SubtitleEdit to correct | align | correct case | spell check | generate translations | etc and then merge final (video + audio) tracks from HB with SubtitleTracks using (say) MKV Toolnix. https://nikse.dk/SubtitleEdit/ https://nikse.dk/SubtitleEdit/ https://mkvtoolnix.download/ https://mkvtoolnix.download/ These are tools that can be streamlined and batched (with some degree of learning curve). > so I want to do as little manual work as possible for each episode I typically transcode Audio+Video, seperate out subtitles automatically along with "most common least destructive" touchups scripted and then watch. You can achieve this by dropping input file in a watched folder and having the results plopped out in a "to be viewed" folder. Most of the time everything is A-OK .. when the syncing is out I correct it via SubtitleEdit and continue watching. You can save Episode.mkv and Episode.srt together, or batch bind the srt into the mkv as you store OR you can go to town with multiple subtitles if you're a media meta data nerd.

johnvanommen 3y ago

> I click on the file and "open with handbrake" and press "convert". I can't imagine how anything night be faster. I use both. One thing I prefer about ffmpeg is that I prefer it when I'm being a control freak. Basically, if I'm encoding a lot of videos, I will sometimes fail to notice that some box has been ticked in Handbrake, that will screw up my encode. In particular, Handbrake always defaults to resizing my videos, 100% of the time, and I always have to turn that off manually. If I fail to do that, it will resize my videos and I'll end up wasting an hour doing encodes, or 3-4 hours if I'm using CPU instead of GPU.