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Ousted OpenAI CEO Makes Plans for New Artificial Intelligence Company

76 points by woliveirajr 3y ago

some_furry 3y ago
https://archive.is/4U6tu https://archive.is/4U6tu For people who met the paywall but aren't using CloudFlare's DNS
- Ephil012 3y ago
  Out of curiosity, why do you say the bit about not using CloudFlare's DNS? Is using it incompatible with archive.is?
  - wmf 3y ago
    Yeah, archive.is doesn't like certain DNS resolvers.
    - zx8080 3y ago
      Is it the other way around: certain DNS resolvers don't like archive.is?
      - upon_drumhead 3y ago
        No. The archive.is folks intentionally poison dns results for certain resolvers. They have a vendetta against cloudflare for not giving location data to them for dns lookups. https://jarv.is/notes/cloudflare-dns-archive-is-blocked/ https://jarv.is/notes/cloudflare-dns-archive-is-blocked/
        zx8080 3y ago
        Wow, what a shame.
- blueridge 3y ago
  Is this why I get a never ending loop of captcha prompts? I complete them, they keep coming, never proceeds to the article. I just switched to CloudFlare's DNS records about two weeks ago. I guess I'll flip back and try again!
  - some_furry 3y ago
    Yeah the people running archive.today hate CloudFlare.
    - fragmede 3y ago
      I don't think there's hate. it's that serving Cloudflare users threatens the existence of archive.is, due to copyright laws in each jurisdiction
  - upon_drumhead 3y ago
    https://jarv.is/notes/cloudflare-dns-archive-is-blocked/ https://jarv.is/notes/cloudflare-dns-archive-is-blocked/
pyb 3y ago
Chances are he's just saying that as negociating leverage with OpenAI, so as perhaps getting his job back.
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
- supriyo-biswas 3y ago
  I'm not sure anyone would want to come back to a company after having been maligned as a liar in public, let alone the CEO.
  - gardenhedge 3y ago
    Plus now everyone is very aware of the allegations against him by his sister.
  - brucethemoose2 3y ago
    And the company he comes back to would be torn in half. How could Altman work with the leaders who ousted him, and the employees who supported it?
    - theptip 3y ago
      Well obviously Sutskever would get the axe, and you’d expect at least some (if not all) of the existing board to step down so that Altman's faction had a majority. It would be a complete capitulation to bring him back at this point. Unclear how many of the rank and file are loyal to either faction to the point of walking away.
      - edgyquant 3y ago
        > obviously Sutskever would get the axe, That would be a huge mistake he’s irreplaceable. Like it or not OpenAI is his brainchild and any company without him is just another Claude/Grok/Bard and not the source of these innovations.
MaximilianEmel 3y ago
He better call it "NextAI".
- brucethemoose2 3y ago
  "OpenishAI"
  - CottonMcKnight 3y ago
    MariaAI
  - Jensson 3y ago
    ClopenAI, it is both open and closed!
    - brucethemoose2 3y ago
      Schrödinger AI, open and closed simultaneously depending on how its observed?
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
- mekster 3y ago
  LibreAI
- imheretolearn 3y ago
  AltAI
- sillysaurusx 3y ago
  GapingAI: wide open (This was briefly on the table for Eleuther’s name, but sadly no one but me seemed willing to march under the gaping banner.)
- borissk 3y ago
  Closed AI
imheretolearn 3y ago
> OpenAI’s former president who stepped down in solidarity with Mr. Altman From what I've read online, it was more like forced to step down. > if i start going off, the openai board should go after me for the full value of my shares It sure looks like the bridges are burned > the next world-changing company I don't know how feasible is it to build two world changing companies in the same space in the same decade
- sbierwagen 3y ago
  >It sure looks like the bridges are burned The joke is that Altman doesn't actually have any equity in OpenAI. He was only paid in cash, and according to OpenAI's nonprofit tax filings, just $58K a year? https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/810861541 https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/810...
  - zeven7 3y ago
    The speculation I've read online is that he may have also been paid in profit sharing units.
nunez 3y ago
I never thought that the Michael Scott Paper Company maneuver would ever happen in real life, but I guess anything is possible in 2023.
- aws_ls 3y ago
  lol... this was more like Dwight did a coup and Michael Scott was forced to.
belter 3y ago
It will be called Clippy...

76 points by woliveirajr 3y ago

some_furry 3y ago

https://archive.is/4U6tu https://archive.is/4U6tu For people who met the paywall but aren't using CloudFlare's DNS

Ephil012 3y ago
Out of curiosity, why do you say the bit about not using CloudFlare's DNS? Is using it incompatible with archive.is?
- wmf 3y ago
  Yeah, archive.is doesn't like certain DNS resolvers.
  - zx8080 3y ago
    Is it the other way around: certain DNS resolvers don't like archive.is?
    - upon_drumhead 3y ago
      No. The archive.is folks intentionally poison dns results for certain resolvers. They have a vendetta against cloudflare for not giving location data to them for dns lookups. https://jarv.is/notes/cloudflare-dns-archive-is-blocked/ https://jarv.is/notes/cloudflare-dns-archive-is-blocked/
      - zx8080 3y ago
        Wow, what a shame.
blueridge 3y ago
Is this why I get a never ending loop of captcha prompts? I complete them, they keep coming, never proceeds to the article. I just switched to CloudFlare's DNS records about two weeks ago. I guess I'll flip back and try again!
- some_furry 3y ago
  Yeah the people running archive.today hate CloudFlare.
  - fragmede 3y ago
    I don't think there's hate. it's that serving Cloudflare users threatens the existence of archive.is, due to copyright laws in each jurisdiction
- upon_drumhead 3y ago
  https://jarv.is/notes/cloudflare-dns-archive-is-blocked/ https://jarv.is/notes/cloudflare-dns-archive-is-blocked/

pyb 3y ago

Chances are he's just saying that as negociating leverage with OpenAI, so as perhaps getting his job back.

deleted 3y ago
[deleted]
supriyo-biswas 3y ago
I'm not sure anyone would want to come back to a company after having been maligned as a liar in public, let alone the CEO.
- gardenhedge 3y ago
  Plus now everyone is very aware of the allegations against him by his sister.
- brucethemoose2 3y ago
  And the company he comes back to would be torn in half. How could Altman work with the leaders who ousted him, and the employees who supported it?
  - theptip 3y ago
    Well obviously Sutskever would get the axe, and you’d expect at least some (if not all) of the existing board to step down so that Altman's faction had a majority. It would be a complete capitulation to bring him back at this point. Unclear how many of the rank and file are loyal to either faction to the point of walking away.
    - edgyquant 3y ago
      > obviously Sutskever would get the axe, That would be a huge mistake he’s irreplaceable. Like it or not OpenAI is his brainchild and any company without him is just another Claude/Grok/Bard and not the source of these innovations.

MaximilianEmel 3y ago

He better call it "NextAI".

brucethemoose2 3y ago
"OpenishAI"
- CottonMcKnight 3y ago
  MariaAI
- Jensson 3y ago
  ClopenAI, it is both open and closed!
  - brucethemoose2 3y ago
    Schrödinger AI, open and closed simultaneously depending on how its observed?
deleted 3y ago
[deleted]
mekster 3y ago
LibreAI
imheretolearn 3y ago
AltAI
sillysaurusx 3y ago
GapingAI: wide open (This was briefly on the table for Eleuther’s name, but sadly no one but me seemed willing to march under the gaping banner.)
borissk 3y ago
Closed AI

imheretolearn 3y ago

> OpenAI’s former president who stepped down in solidarity with Mr. Altman From what I've read online, it was more like forced to step down. > if i start going off, the openai board should go after me for the full value of my shares It sure looks like the bridges are burned > the next world-changing company I don't know how feasible is it to build two world changing companies in the same space in the same decade

sbierwagen 3y ago
>It sure looks like the bridges are burned The joke is that Altman doesn't actually have any equity in OpenAI. He was only paid in cash, and according to OpenAI's nonprofit tax filings, just $58K a year? https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/810861541 https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/810...
- zeven7 3y ago
  The speculation I've read online is that he may have also been paid in profit sharing units.

nunez 3y ago

I never thought that the Michael Scott Paper Company maneuver would ever happen in real life, but I guess anything is possible in 2023.

aws_ls 3y ago
lol... this was more like Dwight did a coup and Michael Scott was forced to.

belter 3y ago

It will be called Clippy...