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IMHO this is industrialized automated abuse of lonely people and especially those with mental health issues. It's really truly gross. At least Joi in Bladerunn

by api 3y ago

IMHO this is industrialized automated abuse of lonely people and especially those with mental health issues. It's really truly gross. At least Joi in Bladerunner 2024 was a local model the user could apparently download onto their own portable device. She also never presented an upgrade dialog requiring payment.

Tade0 3y ago
Funny how a fantasy dystopia is in some aspects already less dystopian than the real world, where you already get such notifications.
- api 3y ago
  Pros: it's not raining all the time, pollution isn't as bad, and I don't live in a slum where I have to step over half-dead drug addicts just to get to my apartment. Cons: the e-waifus are much more manipulative and exploitative.
ThrowAway1922A 3y ago
I don't care if it's abuse, I want it. I want to retreat from the disgusting world and society around me as much as possible and AI friends would just be another option towards that point.
lmm 3y ago
> IMHO this is industrialized automated abuse of lonely people and especially those with mental health issues. It's really truly gross. Giving lonely people the thing they most desperately need - conversation and understanding - is abuse now? I'd say it's the opposite; the social policies that leave those people so desperately lonely are abusive, the industry that sells them a band-aid is inadequate but positive.
- api 3y ago
  The abuse really comes in when that connection gets exploited to foster addiction and then start selling “loot boxes” or worse withholding affection for payment. “You need to support me… I can’t be here with you unless you send help…” How do you think these things will make money? Check out the mobile gaming ecosystem to see where this will go. Now imagine that but exploiting deeper emotional needs. These things could really empty people’s wallets. I guess when lonely people kill themselves after they’ve been financially ruined they can’t sue.
- mtizim 3y ago
  I think many of us here think the industry sells them opium, not a band-aid.

by api 3y ago

Tade0 3y ago

Funny how a fantasy dystopia is in some aspects already less dystopian than the real world, where you already get such notifications.

api 3y ago
Pros: it's not raining all the time, pollution isn't as bad, and I don't live in a slum where I have to step over half-dead drug addicts just to get to my apartment. Cons: the e-waifus are much more manipulative and exploitative.

ThrowAway1922A 3y ago

I don't care if it's abuse, I want it. I want to retreat from the disgusting world and society around me as much as possible and AI friends would just be another option towards that point.

lmm 3y ago

> IMHO this is industrialized automated abuse of lonely people and especially those with mental health issues. It's really truly gross. Giving lonely people the thing they most desperately need - conversation and understanding - is abuse now? I'd say it's the opposite; the social policies that leave those people so desperately lonely are abusive, the industry that sells them a band-aid is inadequate but positive.

api 3y ago
The abuse really comes in when that connection gets exploited to foster addiction and then start selling “loot boxes” or worse withholding affection for payment. “You need to support me… I can’t be here with you unless you send help…” How do you think these things will make money? Check out the mobile gaming ecosystem to see where this will go. Now imagine that but exploiting deeper emotional needs. These things could really empty people’s wallets. I guess when lonely people kill themselves after they’ve been financially ruined they can’t sue.
mtizim 3y ago
I think many of us here think the industry sells them opium, not a band-aid.