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That’s funny because the left currently dominates all aspects of culture, academia, work, and society. The orthodox is solidly “progressive” right now.

threeseed 3y ago
The world isn't a binary choice between either left or right. The overwhelming majority of the world operates in the grey middle which is what is codified into policies, laws, precedents, standards, norms etc. And much of it is universal across the world e.g. the concept of professional conduct in companies.
- chrischattin 3y ago
  Obviously. I'm just talking about the current state of affairs.
  - threeseed 3y ago
    That's the current state of affairs from your viewpoint. Which if you're seeing it through a left/right prism is flawed. Because my point is that most people don't see the world this way.
    - malablaster 3y ago
      There something true about it though. People see the world through “my tribe, not my tribe”. Left vs right. Islam vs non-Islam. West vs non-west. Sunni vs Shia. etc.
api 3y ago
Depends on which industries you are in and where you live. If you are in tech or finance this may be true to some extent. If you are in academia it’s definitely true unless you are at one of those far right religious colleges. If you are in construction, energy, manufacturing, or countless other fields it’s either not true or only present to a “token” degree in the form of some sensitivity training seminar you have to listen to for HR onboarding.
dontlaugh 3y ago
Have workers seized the means of production throughout the world while I wasn't looking? You're just describing a change in ruling class aesthetics. Materially, little has changed.
- jimbokun 3y ago
  Because the self described left has de-emphasized economic and labor concerns, and prioritize intersectional identity as defining oppressor and oppressed categories.
  - justin66 3y ago
    That's not a difference in a group's emphasis, that's two different groups of people.
    - jimbokun 3y ago
      Two different groups claiming the same label.
      - justin66 3y ago
        Or, in keeping with the theme of this comment thread, having the label imposed on them. Union members and people who use "intersectionality" in a sentence are not natural associates, let alone allies.
kristiandupont 3y ago
>the left currently dominates all aspects of culture, academia, work, and society What a weird statement. Dominates all of culture? Work? Society??! The extremes on both ends do definitely dominate in the public debate which is frustrating (and, I think, dangerous). It makes it seem like the average person is much less reasonable than I believe they are.
- AnimalMuppet 3y ago
  The extremes dominate the public debate, because the media is outrage-driven for clicks. Thus insane voices get amplified, and our public discourse goes insane.
- srackey 3y ago
  Lol. They obviously do. For instance: how many people here had to change the name of their master git branch to “main”?
immibis 3y ago
Reality has a left-wing bias, right? Jokes aside, the left wing has a reality bias. Left-wing people have a greater propensity than right-wing people to adapt their views to fit reality. Right-wing people have the propensity to make reality fit their views. IIRC this has been shown in scientific studies, but you'll probably say those are controlled by the left.

threeseed 3y ago

The world isn't a binary choice between either left or right. The overwhelming majority of the world operates in the grey middle which is what is codified into policies, laws, precedents, standards, norms etc. And much of it is universal across the world e.g. the concept of professional conduct in companies.

chrischattin 3y ago
Obviously. I'm just talking about the current state of affairs.
- threeseed 3y ago
  That's the current state of affairs from your viewpoint. Which if you're seeing it through a left/right prism is flawed. Because my point is that most people don't see the world this way.
  - malablaster 3y ago
    There something true about it though. People see the world through “my tribe, not my tribe”. Left vs right. Islam vs non-Islam. West vs non-west. Sunni vs Shia. etc.

api 3y ago

Depends on which industries you are in and where you live. If you are in tech or finance this may be true to some extent. If you are in academia it’s definitely true unless you are at one of those far right religious colleges. If you are in construction, energy, manufacturing, or countless other fields it’s either not true or only present to a “token” degree in the form of some sensitivity training seminar you have to listen to for HR onboarding.

dontlaugh 3y ago

Have workers seized the means of production throughout the world while I wasn't looking? You're just describing a change in ruling class aesthetics. Materially, little has changed.

jimbokun 3y ago
Because the self described left has de-emphasized economic and labor concerns, and prioritize intersectional identity as defining oppressor and oppressed categories.
- justin66 3y ago
  That's not a difference in a group's emphasis, that's two different groups of people.
  - jimbokun 3y ago
    Two different groups claiming the same label.
    - justin66 3y ago
      Or, in keeping with the theme of this comment thread, having the label imposed on them. Union members and people who use "intersectionality" in a sentence are not natural associates, let alone allies.

kristiandupont 3y ago

>the left currently dominates all aspects of culture, academia, work, and society What a weird statement. Dominates all of culture? Work? Society??! The extremes on both ends do definitely dominate in the public debate which is frustrating (and, I think, dangerous). It makes it seem like the average person is much less reasonable than I believe they are.

AnimalMuppet 3y ago
The extremes dominate the public debate, because the media is outrage-driven for clicks. Thus insane voices get amplified, and our public discourse goes insane.
srackey 3y ago
Lol. They obviously do. For instance: how many people here had to change the name of their master git branch to “main”?

immibis 3y ago

Reality has a left-wing bias, right? Jokes aside, the left wing has a reality bias. Left-wing people have a greater propensity than right-wing people to adapt their views to fit reality. Right-wing people have the propensity to make reality fit their views. IIRC this has been shown in scientific studies, but you'll probably say those are controlled by the left.