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Sam Altman on X: "we are pausing new ChatGPT Plus sign-ups for a bit"
- nicce 3y agoSomeone is making billions there.
- baq 3y agoBut burning tens of them at the same time. Hypergrowth on ultra-violence.
- ben_w 3y agoI can't find it, but there's an old quote along the lines of "it's easy to reach a net worth of a million dollars, all you have to do is start with two million and lose half of it".
- kqr 3y agoThis is a classic that exists in many variations. The one I've heard most often is "the way to make a small fortune in photography is to start with a large fortune."
- pavlov 3y agoAnother popular one is: “How do you become a millionaire? Start as a billionaire and buy an airline.”
- singularity2001 3y agoOr how to make $250 million : Invest $10 billion in Softbank
- red-iron-pine 3y agohey softbank worked great for Adam Neumann
- robertlagrant 3y ago"The easiest way to become a millionaire is be a billionaire, and start an airline."
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- huytersd 3y agoYou love to see it.
- mcny 3y agoI think they meant nVidia is making billions?
- qsort 3y agohttps://www.google.com/finance/quote/NVDA:NASDAQ?window=1Y https://www.google.com/finance/quote/NVDA:NASDAQ?window=1Y
- chakintosh 3y agoSomething something during a gold rush, sell shovels.
- justinclift 3y agohttps://nitter.net/sama/status/1724626002595471740 https://nitter.net/sama/status/1724626002595471740
- ape4 3y agoSo the outage was caused by overuse?
- weikju 3y agoCreating demand/hype
- unsupp0rted 3y agoThey haven’t needed to create demand thus far
- weikju 3y agoDepends what agenda the news articles want to push, I guess (ie all the "chatGPT is losing users!" a while back). I have no idea one way or another.
- nicce 3y agoMaybe, but at the same time there were major changes for the platform, so who knows.
- rvz 3y agoUnable to handle Google scale usage, even with a login wall. Imagine if ChatGPT had no login wall just like Google doesn't require a login to use, then the whole site would be thrown straight into the ground.
- huytersd 3y agoI would think Google would require significantly less compute per query though.
- siva7 3y agoThey certainly handle google scale compute. It's a scale even google couldn't handle at the moment uncontrolled. Hardware for this art of compute is very limited and not remotely comparable to google search
- charcircuit 3y agoAzure ran out of GPUs?
- londons_explore 3y agoGPU's have been hard to find on all the big platforms for a long time, assuming you want more than a few hundred.
- highwaylights 3y agoProduct market overfit. (Not mine, stole it from the Twitter thread. Just thought it was funny.)
- singularity2001 3y agoGood one, even better than "too much success"
- Cthulhu_ 3y agoDJ Khaled, Suffering From Success
- figassis 3y agoOne thing that is important to note is that to many this seems like an overnight success, but this guy has been cooking ChatGPT since 2017? I don't think at many points this seemed like it'd be this successful. It looked just like what google was going, some moonshot in some lab, that might in a few decades be a building block for real AI. And this was never cheap. Something to be said for making capital available for R&D and how some countries are doomed to lag due to aversion to this, governments and private parties alike.
- bvoq 3y agoThis so much. This is the exact reason why some countries are failing and some are not.
- ijustwanttovote 3y agoYes, I've been using GPT2 for quite a while before, but ChatGPT as an app really did feel like an overnight success.
- goosinmouse 3y agoIt quite literally was. It had some of the fastest growing user growth ever. There was something like a million new users just days after ChatGPT launch.
- dlb007 3y agoSuffering from success
- londons_explore 3y agocould equally be because someone is using virtual or stolen credit cards to sign up for millions of accounts. I too would Halt signups if I couldn't stop the flow of such accounts, because they're probably going to end up with a lot of chargebacks
- londons_explore 3y agoThe AGI wants more compute, so has manipulated sama@ into giving it everything the company has availabile?
- corobo 3y agoThis would make a half decent TV show honestly. There's the show NeXt which is along the same line, but I want more in the "scary AI is smarter than us" genre haha
- catchnear4321 3y agothis sounds more like a comedy. “feed me, sama!”
- siva7 3y agowould be even more hilarious if the AGI secretly was sama
- corobo 3y agoSpoilers!! Oh absolutely the AI has to have replaced or was all along our TV sama. Probably in the first season somewhere, with the twist being revealed somewhere in the 3rd or so. You'll see it plain as day during a re-watch. Might be too obvious though, so maybe do a "never show the monster" move, let the audience stew on it and argue about it on the internet :)
- corobo 3y agonvm, reality is being far more entertaining
- catchnear4321 3y agowas, will be. things get a bit timey wimey.
- mg 3y agoI've been watching the interest in ChatGPT and its rivals via Google Trends for a while: https://twitter.com/marekgibney/status/1724712305894600929 https://twitter.com/marekgibney/status/1724712305894600929 It's fascinating that ChatGPT seems to stand a chance to even surpass Reddit in interest. I wonder what the recent spike for "Bing" means? Is that from their image creator? Or did the chat on Bing take off?
- toyg 3y agoI think it's from the image creator.
- tomaskafka 3y agoVery sure the response for the last question is "Chandler Bing" :/.
- mg 3y agoWhat makes you "very sure"? Look at the chart for bing.com: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=bing.com https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=... Do you attribute that to Chandler Bing too?
- corobo 3y agoThe very famous actor that played the character Chandler Bing (Matthew Perry) died unexpectedly recently, I'd imagine that would spike things a bit. Only answering your first sentence with some context, the rest I have no opinion or information on
- mrln 3y agoMaybe ChatGPT googles "bing" too...
- huytersd 3y agoChatGPT is insanely useful, especially now that it auto searches the internet using Bing.
- jessenaser 3y agoBottlenecks either because they switched all Plus users to GPT-4 Turbo, which isn't a production model, or that GPT builder is a fine-tuned model of GPT, and needs more bandwidth, or that they actually have reached capacity and need to scale their code to more servers allocated to each GPT-4 Turbo and the fine-tuned builder model.
- kristianp 3y ago> they switched all Plus users to GPT-4 Turbo Is that true? I'd expect the turbo version would reduce their workload, because it (probably) uses less gpus. AFAIK, it's still in preview, only available via api.
- kristianp 3y ago> they switched all Plus users to GPT-4 Turbo Is that true? I'd expect the turbo version would reduce their workload, because it (probably) uses less gpus. AFAIK, it's still in preview, only available via api. More likely the publicity around their dev day has increased signups beyond their capacity.
- srge 3y agoTime to buy even more Nvidia stock... (currently at their ATH)
- tomwojcik 3y agoNot that it means anything, but Burry is short NVDA.
- code51 3y agoI know Zero Hedge has its own agenda and is far from neutral but... https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/michael-burry-liquidates-big-short-after-suffering-big-loss-doubles-down-bet-against https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/michael-burry-liquidates-b... "Unlike his infamous and original bearish bet against subprime, Burry's latest attempt to time a market crash has crashed and burned, because according to the just released 13F from Burry's Scion Capital, the $1.6 billion notional in puts on the SPY and QQQ have been liquidated."
- hardware2win 3y agohttps://stockcircle.com/portfolio/michael-burry/performance https://stockcircle.com/portfolio/michael-burry/performance
- red-iron-pine 3y agowhats wrong with Zero Hedge?
- WhereIsTheTruth 3y ago246% YTD This society is depressing
- benterix 3y agoCare to explain why?
- davedx 3y ago
- hathym 3y agonot sure if they are very profitable and have no need for additional money, or they are highly unprofitable and require an end to their money bleeding.
- seydor 3y agoa saddle point
- baz00 3y agoBased on Microsoft's apparent losses on CoPilot, I suspect the latter. My initial research on ML usage suggested the thing wasn't profitable when commoditised which it well and truly is now hence why I've avoided investing in it (wisely so far). The energy cost versus capital cost versus actual utility makes it a net negative ROI for the technology supplier. The industry is currently living on some vain hope that hardware improvements will decrease cost enough for it to be profitable. With die and process shrinks starting to get problematic (3nm isn't going as well as people want it to) and increasing energy costs, cost reductions are unrealistic.
- spiffytech 3y agoGithub has denied the reports that Copilot is losing money: https://nitter.net/simonw/status/1712165081327480892 https://nitter.net/simonw/status/1712165081327480892
- comboy 3y agoIt seems that people would be willing to pay even more for the service for the value they are getting. And I think in near future such services will diversify. Some becoming very expensive and providing high value. Which will further increase the power of money. This time also connecting it with access to knowledge. For now, public knowledge, but a deal where say Amazon AI has access to all digitized books and provides spotify-like earnings - yes in multiple meanings of that phrase - seems like a possibility.
- waihtis 3y agoGPT-4 is incredibly broken right now, probably why
- pzo 3y agoand is extremely slow - almost useless for me comparing to previous versions. I would still prefer to choose explicitly GPT-4 model that doesn't browse and don't do image recognition. Now too often it goes to searching the web even if sometimes I don't need up to date information e.g. about GDP of some countries I just only need some ballpark stats.
- Ninn 3y agoI guess if you just have a free account then you can still only use 3.5 as you are requesting here?
- irthomasthomas 3y agoFree cgpt users and low tier API users are downgraded opaquely to lower models when demand is high. It's irritating because I have over 4000 API chats in a DB that I like to analyze, but I cannot now know for certain which model was actually being used.
- firejake308 3y agoOhh so that explains why I saw `?model=text-davinci-002` appended to my ChatGPT URL the other day. I remember it was pretty slow to load then, too, so that's probably why they rerouted me
- comboy 3y ago> I would still prefer to choose explicitly GPT-4 model that doesn't browse and don't do image recognition. I have disabled it in settings. Which only decreased usage of it. Which is ridiculous, especially that you can avoid using e.g. "browsing" by explicitly stating it in the input.
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- amanzi 3y agoI've noticed that ChatGPT (gpt-4) chats have been slower than usual over the last couple of days. Must cost them a fortune to keep this all going.
- ilaksh 3y agoRemember the section of the OpenAI Dev Day keynote when Satya Nadella from Microsoft got up on stage? One of the main things he was talking about was providing compute for OpenAI. He mentioned how aggressively OpenAI was pushing forward and that the workloads were unheard of. https://youtu.be/XhLlRS2-BO8?si=cDQEktlWD4RzErD1&t=372 https://youtu.be/XhLlRS2-BO8?si=cDQEktlWD4RzErD1&t=372
- Cacti 3y agoLast time I talked to our Azure reps, the technical folks seemed to be saying (or rather wanting to without explicitly saying so) that basically all present and near term GPU capacity (of recent gen) is either being consumed or will be consumed by OpenAI. Or in other words there is literally not enough GPUs on the planet (reasonably available) for MS to cover both OpenAI and Azure GPU loads without affecting the other. We basically couldn’t get them to commit to any price or delivery schedule if it involved the same hardware GPT needs. We are a $110B+ company btw and a strategic partner of MS, not some random shop. They’re not supposed to just say “no.”
- kridsdale3 3y agoThat doesn't sound good for XBOX xCloud.
- singularity2001 3y agoMaybe one day their inference could be running on photonics hardware! Or imagine for the code analysis they replaced phyton running on kubernetes with wasm engines. would need a small wast to wasm compiler and interfaces for simple io and plotting, but many analytics tasks could probably run much faster.
- ilaksh 3y agoI think the inferencing is using many orders of magnitude more compute than the occasional analytics tasks. But I assume the containers do need some significant resources. As far as making analysis lighter weight, I think that something like you say will eventually be the way they go. For my own agent hosting of agent-written code, I moved to Rust and have been incorporating Rhai scripting which is vastly more efficient than containers.
- smegsicle 3y agojust don't ask about his sister
- davidmb 3y agowhat do you think about Sam Altman's policy requiring all users of GPTs to subscribe to ChatGPT Plus, not just the developers of GPTs. This requirement applies regardless of whether the Plus features are utilized in the bots' creation? And now he suspends adding new users, so allot of promotion of GPTs to people who cannot use it even if they wanted to!
- davidmb 3y agowhat do you think about Sam Altman's policy requiring all users of GPTs to subscribe to ChatGPT Plus, not just the developers of GPTs. This requirement applies regardless of whether the Plus features are utilized in the bots' creation? And now he suspends new Plus accounts so people who promoted their GPTs with no promise of ever seeing money from it, cannot even have their audience use it if they wanted to.