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Genuinely asking, problem does this solve? And won't apple instantly destroy them the moment they use an LLM for siri? Why wouldn't I use my existing watch/pho
by filterfiber 3y ago
Genuinely asking, problem does this solve? And won't apple instantly destroy them the moment they use an LLM for siri?
Why wouldn't I use my existing watch/phone/earbuds/pods instead of paying 600$+subscription for this?
I don't understand the insistence on using voice as the main interaction and ditching the screen.
At least google glass/AR let's me read
- mpalmer 3y agoInstantly destroy? Or acquire?
- belugacat 3y agoQuite a few bridges were burned to form the company, an acquisition would be a surprising development.
- zffr 3y agoCan you expand on that? How did humane burn bridges to form the company?
- nameless912 3y agoAren't the humane folks a bunch of ex-Google/ex-Android execs?
- polynomial 3y agoWho is the extremely slow talking spokesperson?
- killerdhmo 3y agoWrong, ex-Apple people
- filterfiber 3y agoA bit tongue in cheek - I said "instantly destroy" because if the main selling point is an ai voice assistant, then people would just use what's already built into their phone/watch/airpods instead of paying 600$ if apple was to implement a better LLM for siri. I'm skeptical of the usefulness of the hand projection vs a watch. And I think anyone who wants to bring a camera would be far better served by an iphone (or any phone).
- ape4 3y agoYeah, people already have phones. This is could just be a phone app.
- worldsayshi 3y agoPart of me just wants to get rid of my phone if I get a device that does the actually useful things. Get info about something, checks and sends messages in a smart way, checks the bus. Most of the other stuff is just idling. I don't expect I would idle in the same way with an actually good assistant that respects me. But then I'd prefer an open source Wikipedia/Wikimedia like organisation behind it.
- filterfiber 3y agoThe apple watch can already Pay, music, communication without a phone. Siri itself is lacking but I expect that to change with an LLM soon. You can already lock down your phone to prevent distracting apps. I've skeptical that people would actually choose to go without a phone in favor of this
- troupo 3y ago> Part of me just wants to get rid of my phone if I get a device that does the actually useful things. Get info about something, checks and sends messages in a smart way, checks the bus. This requires an always-on device, or always-in-the-cloud server processing your data and pushing updates to your device. The former is limited by physics (battery), the latter is limited by how much data you want accessed from the cloud. Neither are solved by open source.
- worldsayshi 3y agoCould be a self hosted home device for the big power requirements.
- lelandfe 3y agoThe problem this solves is my pager looks outdated
- cowsup 3y agoThis looks like a cool toy that high-level members of an organization will buy, and nobody else. It can’t compete in the consumer space, because it doesn’t let you waste time on social media. It can’t compete in the corporate world because it doesn’t have a screen — no email, no spreadsheets, no collaborative chat application we’ve all grown used to. And it can’t even be great for photography, since you need another device to view the photos and videos this thing takes. If this thing takes off for its impressive AI capabilities, smartphone makers can pump R&D into their AI, and give us this for free as a software update. But right now, the only people who will use this are folks whose job involves scheduling meetings and firing off quick text messages to colleagues and clients.
- pointlander 3y agoThis thing is great for old people who can't see the screen. It is like a life alert on steroids that can order pizza. It is also great for kids for obvious reasons.
- msluyter 3y agoI can see something like this filling a niche with the elderly population as like an external memory. (Or even just for forgetful adhd folks like myself, having something I can ask "wait, what did my wife just say to me 5 minutes ago?" ;) )
- polynomial 3y ago"what did my wife just say to me 5 minutes ago?" is the most brilliant app idea I've seen (in recent memory.)
- verdverm 3y agobut requires an always on and listening device, which people don't really want because it is always abused by the overlords
- lainga 3y agocounterpoint being "bring up what my husband said 10 months ago". the Devil skips away, contract in hand...
- Erwin 3y agoBlack Mirror's "The Entire History of You" S1E03 episode has one take on what would happen if we could effortlessly record -- and replay -- everything. As with most Black Mirrors, there are some dark but believeable ideas. Incidentally, it was written by Jess Armstrong who later created "Succession".
- ACS_Solver 3y agoI recommend "The Truth of Fact, the Truth of Feeling" by the brilliant Ted Chiang, a short story featuring a related social situation. People in the story use a recorder with highly advanced search and indexing capabilities so it becomes possible to instantly access a video of anywhere you've been, or of any conversation you've had.
- nolamark 3y ago
- cdrini 3y agoThe guy had a Ted talk a while back going into his motivations. I believe the main one was he didn't like how phones get between you and the world, and take you out of the moment. This was an attempt to make tech that isn't a distraction in your life but that fades into the background. That was his driving principle, I believe.
- MattDamonSpace 3y agoI got the impression his driving principle was "if we can't replace smartphones then Apple wins"
- gizajob 3y agoTim Cook sleeping like a baby tonight.
- matwood 3y ago> Genuinely asking, problem does this solve? People are thinking about the form factor after the cell phone. Apple is busy training everyone to use hand gestures with the new Apple Watch and upcoming Apple Vision. Humane is going down the path of projecting on the hand and touch.
- filterfiber 3y agoDoesn't the projection require one hand to be up and in a flat position, and the other hand interacts with it? Meaning it requires two hands? Apple's implementations are for 1 hand operation. You can operate the watch's touch screen while holding a steering wheel for example. What's the difference between the objectively not great screen that is my hand, and the oled watch that doesn't require both my hands for operation? EDIT Heck this requires one hand just to see anything. I can look at my watch without any hands!
- alwaysbeconsing 3y agoFrom the demo video it looks that buttons can activate with similar pinch gesture as new Apple watch has.
- polynomial 3y ago"What comes next" is interesting as a problem formulation insofar as it encourages solution based thinking ("Here's the solution I think is next, for an problem still to be identified- other than it is what comes next.)
- AlexandrB 3y ago> People are thinking about the form factor after the cell phone. That presumes there is one. There's not yet a "form factor after the car" for example. Just refinement of the same basic 4-wheeled template, with a few oddball vehicles for niche uses. A possible indicator here is the apparent lack of demand for small screen phones. To me it suggests that screen real estate is more valuable than portability for most people.
- verdverm 3y ago> I don't understand the insistence on using voice as the main interaction and ditching the screen. There was a google i/o talk a few years back were they talked about users wanting multi-modal, an example being they ask for restaurant recommendations by voice, then get the list they can view on their device. Both query and results are presented in their easiest modal, and humans will naturally switch between them. This thing seem dead on arrival. Who wants to hold their hand up like that? Who wants to look at an uneven "screen"? Can you use it while walking or experience the movement in a vehicle? (car, bus, subway) Is this just a big sunk cost fallacy launch?
- TehCorwiz 3y agoI agree with you on all points except one. Arguably the uneven "screen" problem can be solved with a depth camera and warping the projection to match the contours of your hand. Since they already support hand gestures on the target hand it's possible they already have the equipment built-in to do this.
- yowzadave 3y agoDoes this also require that you track the user's eye position?
- bmicraft 3y agoEyes should stay mostly fixed relative to a pin on your chest, as long as you're looking in the same direction (ie your hand). I think the differences would be small enough, especially since the display seems pretty blurry anyway
- TehCorwiz 3y agoProjection warping should be viewer position independent (within a limited scope), only relying on the position of the projector and the screen. Some home theater projectors which already do this to an extent. And there are some famous public performances where video is projected onto a building and warped to match the contours in such a way as to give a convincing 3d effect (Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ_5sDvAlNY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ_5sDvAlNY). You can perform this kind of projection warping on a raspberry pi.
- TeMPOraL 3y ago> Genuinely asking, problem does this solve? It's a combadge. I repeat: it's a combadge. It solves the self-evident problem of there not being combadges available and in use. Or, at least, it's almost a combadge. A good qualitative jump forward, but with plenty of unwanted features like subscription (I guess this could work for a Ferengi combadge), screen, wake words, etc. A combadge doesn't need to be an image projector, nor does it need rich tactile controls. But I guess you can improve the product-problem fit by ignoring those features.
- a-priori 3y agoIt's a poor version of the comm badges in Star Trek Discovery when they go to the 32nd century. Those one can project holograms in front of them.
- kridsdale3 3y agoHell, Star Wars had those, and that was A Long Time Ago!
- Terretta 3y agoSure, but they were also far far away.
- altcognito 3y agoHonestly, if they did the one thing that com badges did, it would have at least one feature I would say, "oh, that's nice"
- dist-epoch 3y ago> Genuinely asking, problem does this solve? Simple example: which way do I go at the next intersection?
- kridsdale3 3y agoApple Watch and Android Wear solve this.
- perryizgr8 3y agoThe route is usually shown in great detail on your car's display. You also get a voice prompt just before you need to start thinking about turning. Is this a genuine problem?
- dist-epoch 3y agoI meant as a pedestrian.
- aurareturn 3y agoWhy would I speak this question when I can just look at the map phone for an extremely quick and concise answer? Or if I'm driving, GPS is displayed on a giant screen.
- dist-epoch 3y agoYou need to take out the phone and start the phone map app. And quite a few people are terrible at reading maps. Not saying this is for everyone, but there will be users.
- aurareturn 3y agoI assume this pin will use GPS? It’s not always accurate. Sometimes the GPS is off. With a phone screen, you can better estimate where you’re standing by looking around you and then comparing what’s on the map. For example, the GPS is almost never accurate in Hong Kong, when I visited.
- insin 3y ago"How can I get people to regret sharing this public transport with me?"
- tootie 3y agoNot just Apple. Any smart watch or ear buds with Google or Amazon AI. I think ear buds paired to a phone are already the perfect form factor for this kind of thing. My Pixel Buds are already pretty good at this and I absolutely never use it.