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It's almost perfect, except for the fact that I really like being able to thumbs-up videos I like, to support the creators. I feel really uncomfortable not havi

It's almost perfect, except for the fact that I really like being able to thumbs-up videos I like, to support the creators. I feel really uncomfortable not having that option.

Aachen 3y ago
- So long as they give their sole custom to Google/Youtube and don't support other platforms in any way, even though it's trivial to upload an mp4 onto another platform and set the title and description same as yt, I don't feel too bad being in a tiny fraction of a minority that doesn't want to have a Google account in order to 'smash' the like button. There's no least evil to be picked here, no market forces at play, it's using google or bust. On the whole, I feel alright not supporting that choice, though part of me also feels as you do of course. - It's also not as though you're upvoting/liking videos other than theirs, so they won't rank lower because you didn't support them. - I'm sure the folks at google figured out that watching a video is already a sign of the content being interesting. When using the official (web) player, it clearly uses this to generate recommendations (to many people's frustration) - You can always share videos with friends or on Mastodon etc. where appropriate, that draws more eyeballs than a passive thumbs up button anyway and thus helps the creator more
- nine_k 3y ago
  What is the other platform you suggest for video uploads? Vimeo? Facebook? Twitch?
- lolinder 3y ago
  > It's also not as though you're upvoting/liking videos other than theirs, so they won't rank lower because you didn't support them. The math doesn't work like that—if you can't Like any videos, then all of the videos you watch have an infinitesimally smaller Liked ratio and count than they would if you could. Any given video isn't competing with all the other videos you watch, it's competing with all the other videos anywhere on the site.
wkat4242 3y ago
The big benefit of newpipe besides skipping ads is that you don't need an account. Which you need for those upvotes anyway.
MBCook 3y ago
How does giving a thumbs up “support the creators”? I’m sure they’d rather you watch the ads or pay for premium.
- savingsPossible 3y ago
  OR, hear me out... Subscribe to the patreon or other non-google revenue stream
  - falcor84 3y ago
    There's a big distance between clicking the upvote button, which I might do on a dozen of videos a day, to financially supporting creators with $1 or more. If we had actual micro-payments though, that would help.
- wkjagt 3y ago
  Not my comment, but maybe support isn't the right word. One person I watch on YouTube says something like "if you enjoyed this video, give a thumbs up. If you didn't, give a thumbs down. It helps me understand which topics you find interesting."
- falcor84 3y ago
  My understanding is that it promotes the video in "the algorithm", leading to more views and thus higher revenue
camel-cdr 3y ago
That made me think of an interesting feature idea: Selectively enable ads on certain channels you'd like to support a bit more.

It's almost perfect, except for the fact that I really like being able to thumbs-up videos I like, to support the creators. I feel really uncomfortable not having that option.

Aachen 3y ago

- So long as they give their sole custom to Google/Youtube and don't support other platforms in any way, even though it's trivial to upload an mp4 onto another platform and set the title and description same as yt, I don't feel too bad being in a tiny fraction of a minority that doesn't want to have a Google account in order to 'smash' the like button. There's no least evil to be picked here, no market forces at play, it's using google or bust. On the whole, I feel alright not supporting that choice, though part of me also feels as you do of course. - It's also not as though you're upvoting/liking videos other than theirs, so they won't rank lower because you didn't support them. - I'm sure the folks at google figured out that watching a video is already a sign of the content being interesting. When using the official (web) player, it clearly uses this to generate recommendations (to many people's frustration) - You can always share videos with friends or on Mastodon etc. where appropriate, that draws more eyeballs than a passive thumbs up button anyway and thus helps the creator more

nine_k 3y ago
What is the other platform you suggest for video uploads? Vimeo? Facebook? Twitch?
lolinder 3y ago
> It's also not as though you're upvoting/liking videos other than theirs, so they won't rank lower because you didn't support them. The math doesn't work like that—if you can't Like any videos, then all of the videos you watch have an infinitesimally smaller Liked ratio and count than they would if you could. Any given video isn't competing with all the other videos you watch, it's competing with all the other videos anywhere on the site.

wkat4242 3y ago

The big benefit of newpipe besides skipping ads is that you don't need an account. Which you need for those upvotes anyway.

MBCook 3y ago

How does giving a thumbs up “support the creators”? I’m sure they’d rather you watch the ads or pay for premium.

savingsPossible 3y ago
OR, hear me out... Subscribe to the patreon or other non-google revenue stream
- falcor84 3y ago
  There's a big distance between clicking the upvote button, which I might do on a dozen of videos a day, to financially supporting creators with $1 or more. If we had actual micro-payments though, that would help.
wkjagt 3y ago
Not my comment, but maybe support isn't the right word. One person I watch on YouTube says something like "if you enjoyed this video, give a thumbs up. If you didn't, give a thumbs down. It helps me understand which topics you find interesting."
falcor84 3y ago
My understanding is that it promotes the video in "the algorithm", leading to more views and thus higher revenue

camel-cdr 3y ago

That made me think of an interesting feature idea: Selectively enable ads on certain channels you'd like to support a bit more.