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Mass producing the most expensive rice cooker [video]
- zdw 3y ago"most expensive": ~$1100 USD https://www.walmart.com/ip/ZOJIRUSHI-Pressure-IH-Rice-Cooker-5-5-cup-Silken-White-ZOJIRUSHI-Flame-Dance-Rice-Cooker-NW-FB10-WZ/5027913385 https://www.walmart.com/ip/ZOJIRUSHI-Pressure-IH-Rice-Cooker...
- albert_e 3y agoseems reasonable description I have seen rice cookers selling for $7 and have myself bought and used rice cookers that cost under $20. they do a good enough job for a middle income household's needs.
- 1-6 3y agoSmokes, some people really take their rice seriously.
- judge2020 3y agoThat probably includes shipping and importing from Japan: > Sold and shipped by want.jp Walmart has gone the Amazon route by allowing any seller to put stuff on walmart.com, leading to wild stuff like this.
- dieselgate 3y agowalmart also recently started requiring login for online orders which is lame
- asutekku 3y agoroughly $550 if bought in japan https://s.kakaku.com/item/K0001538484/ https://s.kakaku.com/item/K0001538484/
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- edge17 3y agohow big is the market for $1100 rice cookers?
- asutekku 3y agobig enough to manufacture them on a large scale
- 1-6 3y agoThat’s why there’s so much hands and fingers involved. Low volume, high price items usually involve lots of short but concentrated spurts of human labor. I bet more mainstream rice cookers are built with more machines.
- wk_end 3y agoIt's pretty much impossible to overstate how important rice is in the East Asian diet: for a comparison to the west, think something like bread, potatoes, and pasta combined. Home chefs aren't necessarily going to want or need a top-of-the-line rice cooker, true - but considering how much rice the average Japanese home chef makes, they wouldn't necessarily not want one. $1100 at the high-end is nothing compared to the price at the high-end of virtually any other kitchen appliance; if you can afford it, why cheap out on something you're going to use almost every day, for almost every single meal? But maybe more importantly, think about restaurants! Although the stereotypes are somewhat overstated, Japanese apartments are often too small to cook in comfortably, and people often work long hours and need quick bites at all hours of the day, so people eat out a lot. And Japanese building codes are far more liberal than western ones, so restaurants can be tiny and individual buildings in Tokyo can have twice as many restaurants as entire city blocks in the west. Net result: Tokyo has among the most restaurants per capita of any city in the world - and considering the population of Tokyo, that's a huge number of restaurants. And almost all of those restaurants are going to need at least one or two (and some a whole fleet); if you're making rice on an industrial scale, it absolutely doesn't make sense to cheap out. Much of the above is true in many other places in East Asia too - most notably, China. That's a big market for high-end rice cookers!
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- Exuma 3y agoWow I actually have just the model less. Man does it make good rice. It has an AI chip in it
- 1-6 3y ago“Neuro Fuzzy” was an AI marketing term that was built into rice cookers for ages. I highly doubt AI has gotten that much advanced in cookers since the 90’s.
- Lukeisun 3y agoI think these types of rice cookers are so expensive as they use induction. Honestly I don’t know how much better it is but supposingly it allows for more accurate heating, allowing for more accurate cooking
- deckar01 3y agoI would imagine the reliability would be higher. A resistive heating element could degrade and eventually develop a fault, but an inductive circuit decouples the electrical circuit from the heating element. A fault or an impurity in the heating material wouldn’t prevent the inductive field from exciting the surrounding conductor particles.
- Exuma 3y agoLol, I figured but given that it was like $800 I figured maybe it had to be doing something, even though I knew I'm falling for some marketing gimmick I had hope!
- veidr 3y agoLuckily, once environmental factors and hardware variance are controlled for, it turns out making good rice really is a sentence-autocomplete complexity problem! :-D
- toddmorey 3y agoWow, I had no idea the internals of a rice cooker were that complex. Do all models have that many parts or just the high end ones?
- chongli 3y agoNo, the most basic rice cookers are very simple. They use a spring-actuated switch and a magnet paired with an alloy button in contact with the bottom of the cooking bowl that has a Curie temperature just slightly above the boiling point of water. When the rice has absorbed all the water the temperature can finally begin to exceed boiling and the button heats up with it, causing the magnet to lose attraction to it. When the magnet is no longer able to overpower the spring, the switch opens and cooking is shut off (usually into a low power keep-warm setting) [1]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSTNhvDGbYI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSTNhvDGbYI
- bensecure 3y agoIs this the same as one subject to a teardown by a popular youtuber? It seems familiar but I might be mistaken.
- bredren 3y agoThe screw feeder is pretty cool. There are a lot of these but this is the closest I could find to the model shown: https://www.kilews.jp/products/bsf-1450/ https://www.kilews.jp/products/bsf-1450/
- bandyaboot 3y agoI take an abnormal amount of appreciation for the simple metal funnel guide that allows the operator to quickly get the screw loaded onto the driver.
- bredren 3y agoYa, I immediately saw the scratches on the one early in the video. I wondered how the bit orientation and screw head were getting lined up. Is it the force and shape of the bit is enough for the screw to spin as needed and receive it? Also, it seemed like the driver almost had force feedback over the screw points. Because the worker’s arm seemed to slow just a bit out of what I’d expect. Could be just great precision though, if possible, why not try to keep the lateral motion confined or even on a particular track. At that point it seems like robotics could be doing all this better.
- mschuster91 3y ago> At that point it seems like robotics could be doing all this better. Robots still aren't at the same amount of dexterity that humans can achieve, at least not in a price-competitive way. Also, robots don't have the "automated QA" built-in that a human has - a robot will keep on placing screws and not notice something like a scratch or other imperfection, while a human can recognize this and yeet the partial assembly towards rework or recycling.
- jccalhoun 3y agoWay back in the mid-90s I worked a couple summers at a factory and one of the jobs there was using a machine like this. Now things may have changed in the 30 years since then but it basically just vibrated to get the screws to go down the V. Sometimes one would get through misaligned and you just threw it back in the hopper. Sometimes it would get jammed and you had to spend a couple minutes unclogging it. The screwdriver just had a trigger on it to make it spin. The bit was magnetized so if you got it close to lined up with the screw then it would put the screw in the slot correctly.
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- jumpkick 3y ago2 cups water, 1 cup long grain rice (2:1 ratio water to rice). Bring water to boil in a pot, add rice, stir and let return to boil. Immediately reduce heat to simmer, put on a lid and let cook for 20 minutes. Once the time is up, remove from heat and fluff the rice with a fork. I’ve been cooking rice exactly like this for 15 years. It’s one of the easiest things to cook and it’s always come out great. I really struggle to understand the reason for owning a rice cooker.
- judge2020 3y agoMaybe it's faster? Bringing a pot of water to boil can take a long time especially on some lower-quality/older electric ranges.
- kouru225 3y agoRice cookers are actually slower in my experience. The benefit is that you don’t have to pay attention to them at all.
- callalex 3y agoThe slowness is a feature. The “smart” or “ai” or “fuzzy logic” or “buzzword” cookers take longer to cook the rice than a simple cheap cooker or a pot on the stove. The rice comes out better that way.
- maxglute 3y agoInduction Coil ones like in the video takes 2-3x longer for nicer rice. Which is pain in the ass for people use to 20m stove top rice. But fine if you make 5 cups and eat over multiple days.
- gcheong 3y agoNot sure it’s faster but at least for me I can start the rice then go off and do other things while it cooks and the rice cooker will keep it warm when it’s done.
- contingencies 3y agoSouth Asia: 10x your rice by eating with your fingers and choosing long grain. Iran: 10x your rice by adding saffron. China: 10x your rice by frying it with leftovers and ensuring adequate gluten to support chopstick based consumption. Japan: 10x your rice by rolling it up in bamboo with sugar and rice wine vinegar. Southeast Asia: 10x your rice by picking glutinous breeds then steaming it in banana leaves or bamboo. All of the above after migrating to the west: 10x your rice by spending money on AI appliances.
- postalrat 3y agoAre you implying that Zojirushi sells more rice cookers outside those regions?
- emptybits 3y ago"10x'ing your rice" with expensive Zojirushi products is mostly happening in Asia. Here is the company's 2022 revenue, by region, from selling their expensive cooking appliances (the most expensive of which are their rice cookers & warmers): Japan: 68% China: 7% Rest of Asia: 10% Americas: 14% Approx USD$400M last year, which doesn't include their other excellent household appliances or travel mugs or insulated containers. (Aside: Their travel mugs are amazing.) Source: https://www.zojirushi-world.com/corporatedata/cfr_2022.pdf https://www.zojirushi-world.com/corporatedata/cfr_2022.pdf
- Bud 3y agoWe finally sprung for a Zojirushi a couple years ago. Not the crazy $1100 model, just one of their midrange ones that normal people buy. It's awesome. Set it and forget it. Absolutely perfect rice every time: sushi rice, brown rice, basmati, jasmine, anything you want to throw at it. From 1 cup at a time all the way up to seemingly metric tons of the stuff. :) Great product at a great price. They have a lot of models in the $200-$300 range. Reviews are consistently great.
- jmpman 3y agoFirst time I went to Tokyo about 17 years ago, I specifically went shopping for the most expensive rice cooker. At that time, being dink’s, it would have been a fun souvenir. What I ultimately discovered as the most expensive rice cooker in the highest end department stores at that time, was a rice cooker made by Mitsubishi, where the cooking bowl was a machined chunk of graphite. Ultimately I wasn’t confident it would work in the US without a huge transformer, so I opted against it. Ended up buying a National (Panasonic) which has served me for over 15 years. Loved it so much, that I started giving them as wedding presents. Only one couple asked to exchange it… they’re divorced. Maybe a sweet rice cooker would have saved their marriage.
- maxglute 3y agoI love me some high end Zojirushi, but this feels stupid over engineered. That retractable Zojirushi cord though. My family upgraded from a top end Xiaomi/Mijia IH pressure rice cooker ($150 USD) to top end IH pressure Zojirushi ($800 USD) and they performed comparable. Best rice is still... controversial... instantpot if one knows what they're doing, but it's definitely fussier than high end models that can figure out any arbiturary quantity of rice. I remember another friend with mid-high end Zojirushi scoff at instantpot rice until they tried some. Then a few years later Zojirushi integrated pressure cooking in their top end models. That said, from what I hear, there is something black magic about Zojirushi's ability to cook brown rice.
- steve_adams_86 3y agoI remember when I bought my zojirushi around 14 years ago I was annoyed by the retractable cord because I was certain it would stop working before the cooker itself broke down. Well, almost 15 years in (that milestone will be in July I think) and I can’t say the machine is any worse for wear, and I rarely use it less than twice per week. It’s a workhorse. It makes oatmeal at least once per week, rice usually twice per week, and occasionally some other grain. It does a great job on everything I throw at it. The retractable cord is doing just fine.
- knightofmars 3y agoTurns out the bowl is relatively easy to replace via the Zojirushi website as well. I've done it twice and even contacted them once to ask if they had any in stock. They responded in a day and then updated their web store inventory.
- steve_adams_86 3y agoMine was discontinued and I can’t seem to find the bowl anywhere. At this point it has cost me something like a penny or less per use, so in terms of what I spent I’m not unhappy. I just wish I wasn’t using the same old decaying bowl, haha. It’s in bad shape. Actually, like you mentioned maybe I should reach out directly and ask. I might get lucky.
- tivert 3y agoSomething about those screwdrivers is just satisfying.
- jiehong 3y agoIf you live in Europe, those aren’t really usable due to the electric grid system being different in Japan, and most of those rice cookers aren’t made for other markets. Instead, you can buy any Cuckoo rice cooker: being made in South Korea they use the exact same electric grid system and socket. They are of similar quality and can be bought in the US too.
- scrlk 3y agoYou should be able to use a Hong Kong or Singapore market Zojirushi in Europe with a UK -> Europe plug adaptor. HK and Singapore use UK plugs and 220/230 V 50 Hz as they were UK colonies.
- layer8 3y agoNo need for an adaptor, the units have a standard IEC 60320 C14 connector and are sold both with UK and EU plugs: https://yum-asia.com/eu/product-category/rice-cookers/?filter_brand=zojirushi https://yum-asia.com/eu/product-category/rice-cookers/?filte...
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- Havoc 3y agoThey sell 240v ones. And they have kettle plugs so anywhere that has computers will be trivial to get right plug For uk it came with right one anyway out of the box
- schainks 3y agoCuckoo was a risky change well worth it. We got a fancy model induction pressure cooker (which also happens to look like the front of the sci-fi ship Event Horizon) and can really taste the difference in how the rice comes out. Also there is something slightly sarcastic and dystopian about the voice it uses in English mode, which kind of adds to the fun.
- p00dles 3y agoDoes anyone know why they put so many reflective stickers inside of the machine? Is it to dissipate heat?
- pmoriarty 3y agoIs there a point to getting a rice cooker over an instant pot?
- jdblair 3y agoThey're different appliances, no? The rice cooker cooks at atmospheric pressure, and stops cooking when all the water is evaporated. The instant pot is a pressure cooker. In the end, it depends on your use case. If you cook a lot of rice, you will be disappointed with the instant pot. In my case, I don't have a rice cooker b/c I don't cook rice very often, and I use my instant pot or the stove top.
- lbotos 3y agoTop of the line Zojirushi uses pressure as well: https://www.zojirushi.com/category/rice_cookers/systems.html https://www.zojirushi.com/category/rice_cookers/systems.html
- thegeekpirate 3y agoAbsolutely, I've yet to see good rice from an instant pot. Buy the cheapest rice cooker instead (usually like ten bucks).
- hedgehog 3y agoIt works well for the three kinds of rice we make and has the benefit of being faster with even easier clean up. No doubt a high end rice cooker could do a slightly better job on most kinds of rice (not the sticky rice).
- jchw 3y agoI'm sure it's possible to get good rice out of an Instant Pot, but the Zojirushi is going to simply be better at it, and it doesn't really take any "dialing in" to get there; you just set the kind of rice and go pretty much, and then you get basically exactly what you want, every single time. Another advantage to a dedicated rice cooker versus using something like an Instant Pot is the obvious fact that it frees up your Instant Pot. (Also, obviously, there are cheaper rice cookers than the Zojirushi, but there's definitely a reason other than cargo-culting why it's popular. I got one after the Walmart Made-in-China special I got crapped out on me. It is definitely, by a good margin, a better product with thoughtful design that produces very good rice.)
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- rwmj 3y agoDamn that non-replacable watch battery which keeps the real time clock going when unplugged. I've had to almost completely disassemble a couple of Zojirushi rice cookers to replace that.
- smiley1437 3y agoYes, great machines but I shake my fist at whoever decided to solder-in the damn battery I've done two now and replaced them with Keystone1250 battery holders from Digikey, soldered on the reverse side They hold nice big CR2450 cells now and can be easily swapped but it's a real pain to have to do this at all
- mindslight 3y agoIt's great to know that this is a thing! I had hopefully assumed the real-time clock was on a supercap or something. It's almost forgiveable with RTCs, since they're generally not required for the main device functionality and RTC reference circuits invariably use coin cells. I've got an auto-darkening welding helmet, with its main power being supplied with the same planned obsolescence nonsense, despite having a solar panel on the front! It suddenly just stopped working, and my usual course of take-apart-the-broken-thing was thwarted due to its case being ultrasonically welded together. Only when I stumbled upon a random Youtube video of someone replacing the batteries in theirs did I get the oomph to pull the thing apart to change the batteries.
- smiley1437 3y ago> Only when I stumbled upon a random Youtube video of someone replacing the batteries in theirs did I get the oomph to pull the thing apart to change the batteries. Same for me and the rice cooker battery, a random video convinced me it wasn't going to be too bad, Youtube is a great resource and I'm so grateful to those willing to share their experience!
- rwmj 3y agoYou don't happen to have a link to that Digikey part do you? My solution was considerably more janky and I might try to fix it.
- kevingadd 3y agoI like how you can tell they optimized the assembly line in the places where it was most necessary - not all the stations have automated screw feeders, but the overall flow of the line seems fine, so they must have put them in the places where people were previously spending too much time fishing screws out of boxes, or where screws were frequently being forgotten (thus the counter). And then at some stations they put the product on a rotating platform (lazy susan?) so that the person doing the assembly can freely rotate it 360 degrees easily without picking it up. You can tell that most of the stations didn't need it by watching how they work, but it must have been a big improvement for the stations that did.
- lbotos 3y agoIf you are in the market for a high end rice cooker I went with Vermicular: https://www.vermicular.us/products/musui-kamado https://www.vermicular.us/products/musui-kamado It's an induction "bowl" with fine temp control as well as rice modes. The tipping point for me was cast iron without a "non-stick" coating that would wear off. If you take the rice out of the pot quickly (30-60 min after done) you get almost no sticking. Unfortunately no Zojirushi song though.
- veidr 3y agoThat thing looks awesome! But also... isn't at least one of the — if not the absolute primary and overwhelming — points of the "rice cooker" device that it not only cooks great rice, but also that it keeps the rice hot, but still in great condition, for for 24 hours (or more, with diminishing yum factor)? Or does this mark me as "not high end" in terms of this type of device? (Highly possible (^_^) ... )
- lbotos 3y agoI know many people (as I understand it most of asia who use rice cookers) keep rice in the rice cooker "warm" but for me, that wasn't a requirement so I didn't feel like I was losing out. It's also been great to cook many other things in, which a rice cooker can do also, but thats more a "hack" than designed to. I take the rice out, immediately put it in a container to trap the any moisture. When I reheat, it's great.
- whyenot 3y agoIt's interesting that almost all of the assemblers are women.
- solardev 3y agoCan we talk about rice cooker UX for a second? I own a mid-level Zojirushi and it makes fine rice. No better or worse than the cheap Target rice cooker I had before, or the slightly less cheap Ninja pressure cooker that also made rice. Definitely better than stovetop, worse than good Asian restaurants. But the Zojirushi stands out to me in terms of how user-unfriendly it is to a westerner... First, it comes with its own rice measuring cups, because a Zojirushi cup isn't the same as an imperial cup. Which is kinda strange to begin with, because isn't it just a ratio of rice to water? But there's not just one mismatched measuring cup, there's two. One is green and one is white, and the green one is for rice that isn't pre-washed, but that isn't labeled in English anywhere. And what is rice washing anyway? Then there's the control panel UI. You have to choose between white rice, brown rice (that's fine), and also GABA rice and quick rice. What the heck is GABA and why would I want slow rice if there's a quick rice? And what if I want quick brown rice? It's not possible. Once you hit start, no timer is present. You have no idea how long it's going to take (turns out, about an hour). How is it that this brand, with its special measuring cups and precise water lines, can't tell me how long it's going to take, but the ninja multi function pressure cooker could tell me down to the second as soon as I hit start? As much as I appreciate good rice, using this appliance is such a cognitive burden that I keep wanting to replace it. I still use this thing every week, but it annoys me every time. I constantly think about selling it and getting a simpler Western model instead just because it's so complex and overengineered. I'd much rather suffer a 10% degradation in output quality if that means the controls could be simplified to just white/brown & start, with a built-in timer. Does something like that exist? Why does Zojirushi make it so complicated? Do the Japanese prefer having more options to tweak? (Reminds me of my old Casio watches). Is this a broader cultural preference, or just something special about this one brand?
- lukevp 3y agoNot defending the UX, it’s trash. But it starts showing you a timer when it’s more certain (usually around the 6-8 minute mark). I switched from a zojirushi to a Tiger from Costco, and it cooks the rice in half the time, but it has the exact same issues since it’s Japanese (separate measurement cups, no timer until it’s almost done) and the seals collect a lot more water than the zojirushi did. The rice comes out better and quicker though. I do think my zojirushi was broken because the rice kept getting worse and worse before I replaced it.
- Syzygies 3y agoI have a midrange Zojirushi rice cooker, a Vermicular Musui Kamado cast iron induction cooker, and a Kamado-san double-lid donabe rice cooker, all from Japan. The Zojirushi makes respectable rice with minimal effort, as in we're about to walk the dog but we need to set up rice for dinner. The Musui Kamado is a dramatic upgrade over an Instant Pot for every use except pressure cooking, for which we prefer a stovetop Fissler pressure cooker. Carefully following directions, it makes better rice than the Zojirushi. We use it whenever we want a feedback loop for fixed temperature, not unattended flame, such as cooking beans or stews. For tacos, I have to remember to transfer the cooked nixtamal corn for fresh masa, in time for my wife to start beans. The Kamado-san double-lid donabe rice cooker takes the most care, and makes in my opinion the best rice, with a controllable bit of scorch as desired. At home, out of expediency we use the Zojirushi to make our rice. I find myself avoiding meals that involve rice, out of boredom. In my work apartment, I haven't touched the Zojirushi or Musui Kamado for rice since adopting the Kamado-san donabe, and I look forward to rice. If all sushi bar rice tastes the same to you, stick to the Zojirushi. If only food at the limits of your abilities captivates you, get a Kamado-san donabe. The Musui Kamado is the most versatile compromise. There's no novel physics here; its edge over both a Zojirushi and an Instant Pot can be explained by its precision-machined cast iron pot, of a better quality than Le Creuset or Staub (I have all three). https://www.vermicular.us/shop/musui-kamado https://www.vermicular.us/shop/musui-kamado https://toirokitchen.com/collections/unique-style-iga-yaki-donabe/products/kamado-san https://toirokitchen.com/collections/unique-style-iga-yaki-d...
- porphyra 3y agoI appreciate that there are higher end devices but as someone who can definitely tell the difference between different sushi bar rice, I'm still satisfied with my Zojirushi rice cooker.
- snapplebobapple 3y ago#metoo
- seanmcdirmid 3y agoWe are a Chinese family (well except me) and a low/mid-range zojirushi gets the job done. Rice is important, but beyond getting the dryness and fluffiness right (don’t add too much water, use Thai longer grain rice), I’m not sure are eating habits would improve with much higher end rice cooking tech. I also appreciate sushi bar rice, but it is something to have out rather than eat in. I guess if I was cooking more Japanese rather than Thai rice it would be different.
- Dowwie 3y agoZojirushi is among the few brands that have sustained high quality products over a very long period of time, and is now unique in that regard for consumer products. I've owned two zojirushi rice cookers over 20 years and the first remains fully functional. The water boiler is great for dispensing hot water on demand for tea.
- layer8 3y agoTangential question: Is there a way, on mobile browsers, to see the length of a YouTube video without unmuting it?
- amelius 3y agoNoob question here. What makes these things more than glorified water boilers with a thermostat and a timer?
- kjkjadksj 3y agoI have this suspicion that they are more necessary in tiny east asian apartment kitchens to make a burner available, and westerners who have much more kitchen space and larger stoves in comparison have latched on to as the right or correct way to make rice simply because its commonly owned in the east. Ignoring why one might own one or the fact rice was traditionally cooked for millennia without plug in cookers.
- callalex 3y agoA few things. 1) It’s easier, you don’t have to watch them, just fill them and turn them on while you do something else. 2) The nicer models will hold the rice at warm-but-below-boiling for a while before cooking because the rice comes out softer and tastier, especially healthy brown rice. 3) The thermostat isn’t used to detect absolute temperature, it actually monitors the rate of change/first derivative to decide when the rice is fully cooked. This makes the required ratio of rice:water much more lenient and cooks the same amount independent of the rice type/size.
- sandworm101 3y agoI've gone through three cheap rice cookers in recent years and am back to doing it in a pot on the stove. None of them have been consistent in their temperature control. I replaced #1 (cheap from amazon) when it burned the rice. #2 (cheap from local walmart) came was "non-stick" but was actually just bushed aluminum. I used it once and needed a scouring pad to clean the thing. #3 is just too messy, spraying rice water all over the counter within a foot of the thing. After reading comments here I find myself hovering over the "buy now" button for a 300$ rice cooker but I have been burned too many time. Pots. Steel pots. They work. They are cheap. They last. They aren't e-waste.
- Simon_ORourke 3y agoI'm firmly in the steel pot camp, for any marginal benefit you can get from a timer or auto start feature, it just takes five minutes to cook some rice in a pot.
- peteforde 3y agoStrong recommend for investing in a Zojirushi. You will get consistently great rice and the devices are known to last decades when properly cared for.
- singingfish 3y agoMy household rice cooker is a Tiger (also a higher end brand, not as flash as the Z). The people here swearing that cooking rice on a stovetop is fine don't take their rice seriously enough (although if it works for them etc). I've had cheapies before but they can't do my favoured preparation of half and half white and brown rice properly.
- peteforde 3y agoUnserious rice for unserious people. Joking aside, I'm genuinely surprised that nobody mentioned Uncle Roger's rice cooking explainers [at least as far as I saw].
- ta8903 3y agoAnyone know why Japan went all in on these electric rice cookers while in India everyone still uses a basic gas pressure cooker? It can't just be the economic disparity.
- callalex 3y agoUntil fairly recently (and sometimes still), electricity could be fairly unreliable in many parts of India.
- huhtenberg 3y agoZojurushi world-wide. Select your region: * Japan * The Americas * Taiwan * Korea * South East Asia * China * Hong Kong / Macau No rice for you, the Europas, Africas or Australias. [0] https://www.zojirushi-world.com/ https://www.zojirushi-world.com/
- singingfish 3y agoNah mate, when it comes to rice, Australia is an honorary part of SE Asia.
- m3kw9 3y agoYou want fluffy rice? Don’t let the rice absorb the steam right after it’s done. As soon as it is finished start flipping the rice so it cools/get as much steam out as possible. Don’t compress/squish the rice though as that is opposite of fluffy. Rice absorbing steam will make it saggy as it will have too much moisture. Closing the lid after mixing is ok
- delta_p_delta_x 3y agoThe Zojirushis look really nice, but I struggle to imagine what the functional differences are to an Indian stainless steel 'whistle' pressure cooker? Given sufficient heat, I can reliably cook any form of rice to perfect fluffiness with five whistles, and it takes less than 20 minutes.
- tibbydudeza 3y agoI cook my rice in a microwave - 20 minutes on high. Don't like the clumpy stick together rice variants though - just white long grain.