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https://octopus.energy/smart/intelligent-octopus-go/ https://octopus.energy/smart/intelligent-octopus-go/

by nsteel 3y ago

sokoloff 3y ago
Thanks. Is that energy and delivery-of-energy combined for 7.5p/kWh? (Here we are charged separately for each of those tasks and, for me, the delivery of energy is over 59% of the total bill. Any alternate supplier is competing only for the supply of energy.)
- sitkack 3y ago
  Did your powerlines get privatized?
  - sokoloff 3y ago
    This probably explains it better than I can: https://www.mass.gov/info-details/what-do-i-need-to-know-about-my-electric-supply-options-in-massachusetts https://www.mass.gov/info-details/what-do-i-need-to-know-abo... As far as I know, the distribution has for a very, very long time been managed by a private, regulated monopoly utility.
- nsteel 3y ago
  That's the energy only. The delivery of it is fixed charge which doesn't come into this analysis since it's unavoidable in either case.
  - sokoloff 3y ago
    When you're computing your total cost per mile to compare against petrol or against a commercial fast-charging alternative, it does come into the analysis (assuming it's a per-kWh cost rather than a per-month fee).
    - nsteel 3y ago
      That assumption is incorrect. I said > fixed charge I pay the same fixed (daily) standing charge regardless of how much electricity I use. This is normal here. To include it in the calculations makes no sense.
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    - Dylan16807 3y ago
      Assuming a fixed cost is per kWh makes no sense and I'm quite confused that someone upvoted it.
      - sokoloff 3y ago
        We have competitive supply here. The charge for distribution is fixed with regard to which energy supplier you choose, but is not fixed with regard to energy consumption. I asked, because if I chose Octopus supply, my energy supply price per kWh would vary according to the supplier but the price per kWh for distribution would not. (And Octopus would naturally only quote the price that they are charging for the part of the total picture that they're involved with.) Being the total (excellent!) rate, I'm a little surprised that Octopus customers aren't running LiFePO4 battery banks to power their daytime usage from the nighttime tariff.
        nsteel 3y ago
        Some Octopus energy customers have batteries and do this but it's a hefty investment.

https://octopus.energy/smart/intelligent-octopus-go/ https://octopus.energy/smart/intelligent-octopus-go/

by nsteel 3y ago

https://octopus.energy/smart/intelligent-octopus-go/ https://octopus.energy/smart/intelligent-octopus-go/

Thanks. Is that energy and delivery-of-energy combined for 7.5p/kWh? (Here we are charged separately for each of those tasks and, for me, the delivery of energy is over 59% of the total bill. Any alternate supplier is competing only for the supply of energy.)

sitkack 3y ago
Did your powerlines get privatized?
- sokoloff 3y ago
  This probably explains it better than I can: https://www.mass.gov/info-details/what-do-i-need-to-know-about-my-electric-supply-options-in-massachusetts https://www.mass.gov/info-details/what-do-i-need-to-know-abo... As far as I know, the distribution has for a very, very long time been managed by a private, regulated monopoly utility.
nsteel 3y ago
That's the energy only. The delivery of it is fixed charge which doesn't come into this analysis since it's unavoidable in either case.
- sokoloff 3y ago
  When you're computing your total cost per mile to compare against petrol or against a commercial fast-charging alternative, it does come into the analysis (assuming it's a per-kWh cost rather than a per-month fee).
  - nsteel 3y ago
    That assumption is incorrect. I said > fixed charge I pay the same fixed (daily) standing charge regardless of how much electricity I use. This is normal here. To include it in the calculations makes no sense.
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  - Dylan16807 3y ago
    Assuming a fixed cost is per kWh makes no sense and I'm quite confused that someone upvoted it.
    - sokoloff 3y ago
      We have competitive supply here. The charge for distribution is fixed with regard to which energy supplier you choose, but is not fixed with regard to energy consumption. I asked, because if I chose Octopus supply, my energy supply price per kWh would vary according to the supplier but the price per kWh for distribution would not. (And Octopus would naturally only quote the price that they are charging for the part of the total picture that they're involved with.) Being the total (excellent!) rate, I'm a little surprised that Octopus customers aren't running LiFePO4 battery banks to power their daytime usage from the nighttime tariff.
      - nsteel 3y ago
        Some Octopus energy customers have batteries and do this but it's a hefty investment.