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What types of messaging do you see, and on what sites? Asking from the US
by preciousoo 3y ago
What types of messaging do you see, and on what sites? Asking from the US
- richardwhiuk 3y agoCommonly "this website is not available in your country". Fairly typically applies to small local news websites in the US.
- yourusername 3y agoAlso some retail outlets. Home depot won't let you see the site from the EU.
- pasc1878 3y agoWhich makes sense as it does not sell there so it does not want to bother with non US laws.
- persnickety 3y agoThere's a large difference between not selling versus not showing.
- lukas099 3y agoThere's no incentive for them to even show it.
- persnickety 3y agoThere is: people do travel.
- pasc1878 3y agoBut not enough to make up for the costs of even thinking about implementing what is needed let alone actually implementing, getting a legal check and maintaining it.
- preciousoo 3y agoOh that's common, from when I used to not live in the US. Usually for stuff that the site bought a license to, with region-lock restrictions. I was imagining a scenario similar to what Facebook is doing in Canada, with messages stating "We cant show you [x] because your government hates free speech" (hyperbole)
- isodev 3y agoIndeed and Facebook is now doing this with Threads - "you can't use Threads in EU because we hate how they make it hard for us to sell your essence to the highest bitter" (hyperbole)
- rsynnott 3y agoThat's almost certainly more about the DMA than the GDPR; they'll be pretty cautious about launching Threads.
- repelsteeltje 3y agoI think geo blocking is legal, if it's blanket blocking. However, blocking based on DNT header is probably coercive — even if country is mentioned as excuse. https://gdpr.eu/gdpr-consent-requirements/ https://gdpr.eu/gdpr-consent-requirements/ Consent must be "freely given", which means you have not cornered the user into agreeing to you using their data. Requiring consent to data processing therefor excludes consent. You need to be able to say no.
- reddalo 3y agoWhich is stupid since EU law doesn't apply to them, since they don't specifically target European users
- nvm0n2 3y agoYes it does, EU considers GDPR to apply internationally and "European user" is defined in such a way that it includes people physically outside the EU.
- hnbad 3y agoLast I checked the GDPR applies to EU residents, not EU citizens. In other words: it applies to anyone in Europe, not anyone from Europe. The legal problem with geo-blocking to work around the GDPR is that the error page is usually not GDPR-compliant either. That said for most US sites which apply geo-blocking this is very much a "we'd rather lose that part of the audience than respect anyone's rights" kind of deal. You can roll out the GDPR-compliant treatment for your US users too and it'll be to their benefit. It just means your broken business model that relies on abusing your users' privacy might no longer work. Note that there are EU sites that do force tracking ads on their users while still being GDPR-compliant by only doing so after the user has consented to it and offering a paid subscription without these ads as an alternative. So it's not just "but we need ads" but explicitly "but we want to harvest your data and do who knows what with it".
- 6031769 3y agoThe EU can consider whatever they like but it does not affect the fact that their jurisdiction ends at the border.
- 369548684892826 3y agoGDPR disagrees with you
- sofixa 3y ago"Your privacy is important to us. This content is inaccessible in your region" or something along those lines
- high_5 3y agoSometimes just a simple 403.