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As someone who lives in the EU, I see this very often with US based websites - the ones that absolutely need the tracking cookies and the data suckage.
by isodev 3y ago
As someone who lives in the EU, I see this very often with US based websites - the ones that absolutely need the tracking cookies and the data suckage.
- m463 3y agodefine "need"? is this "need for my business model" or "need because we can't send a package without your address"?
- adhesive_wombat 3y agoEU law makes that distinction, as I understand it. If the cookie is absolutely required to do something the user explicitly (not implicitly) requested, then you don't need consent. If you can get the user to explicitly request your business model including the use of these specific cookies then you're good to go.
- resonious 3y agoI think a lot of it is really just pure incompetence. Some product person was just like "we need analytics" and so a dev just put it in. Probably neither party put any thought into it. The product person was trained to want analytics and the dev just does what they're told.
- mrweasel 3y agoFor the longest time I noticed that many of those websites, typically small-town newspapers, all ran the same CMS, developed by a former employer of mine. Part of the problem, at least back then, could have been that the CMS simply didn't have the ability to disable the tracking cookie based on visitor settings, and development had pretty much stopped years earlier.
- LadyCailin 3y agoAlmost no software ever doesn’t need changing. Anything without some sort of indefinite service contract of some sort is always a bum deal for the buyer.
- preciousoo 3y agoWhat types of messaging do you see, and on what sites? Asking from the US
- richardwhiuk 3y agoCommonly "this website is not available in your country". Fairly typically applies to small local news websites in the US.
- yourusername 3y agoAlso some retail outlets. Home depot won't let you see the site from the EU.
- pasc1878 3y agoWhich makes sense as it does not sell there so it does not want to bother with non US laws.
- persnickety 3y agoThere's a large difference between not selling versus not showing.
- lukas099 3y agoThere's no incentive for them to even show it.
- persnickety 3y agoThere is: people do travel.
- pasc1878 3y agoBut not enough to make up for the costs of even thinking about implementing what is needed let alone actually implementing, getting a legal check and maintaining it.
- romanovcode 3y agoWhat do you mean "need"? The only website whose business model is user tracking that I can think of are Facebook and google. Without tracking they would cease to make money. Other than those two I don't see how spying on users is a business necessity.
- yulaow 3y agoThey would not, they just serve contextual ads related to the things you are looking at the moment (which often are far better than the tracking ones)
- tempodox 3y agoWhat's the difference if everyone has Google and Facebook tracking embedded in their website? Offloading the spying to these is even worse, because they are centralized and have farther reach.
- romanovcode 3y agoDoesn't FB get way more money for spy agency/propaganda contracts than for the 3rd party pixels for advertising?