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Simplest explanation is it was all PR hype.

by tjpnz 3y ago

schleck8 3y ago
You are telling me Google Assistant and Alexa aren't sentient ASI?
- deleted 3y ago
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- refulgentis 3y ago
  Let's not flatten the differences between ChatGPT and those (your humble source worked on Google Assistant and appreciates your kindness)
yreg 3y ago
But Google did discover the tech the current AI craze is based on.
- pzo 3y ago
  xerox as well invented computer mouse and GUI as we know it.
  - yreg 3y ago
    And you wouldn't accuse Xerox of doing "PR hype". Xerox did the exact opposite thing, they had not realized the value of research done in PARC.
- m00x 3y ago
  Doesn't mean they know how to make it into a product.
  - tjpnz 3y ago
    A common failure mode for startups and a reminder of how universal those lessons are. Whether it would be the death knell of Google we'll have to wait a bit longer.
    - sangnoir 3y ago
      > Whether it would be the death knell of Google we'll have to wait a bit longer. I don't understand the trope on HN that OpenAI is a competitor to Google. I do not think Google has the appetite or DNA to be purely an AI API vendor; I don't think selling APIs is as profitable as Google current business. Google investing in Anthropic is a good, cheap hedge against the low-probability (IMO) event that LLMs somehow displace the search results page and display ads.
  - yreg 3y ago
    Still not just "PR hype".
billythemaniam 3y ago
Google engineers invented most of the primary innovations in NLP in the last decade, such as transformers and word2vec which started it all, that led to the current stack that OpenAI is built on. Their best public models certainly lag OpenAI, but it certainly isn't vaporware.
- m00x 3y ago
  Researchers, not engineers.
  - Der_Einzige 3y ago
    Researchers are engineers in most industry jobs
fidotron 3y ago
The simplest is Google's caste of middle managers are more obstructive to the company than enabling it.
- strangesmells02 3y ago
  Caste is an accurate word to describe it.
  - typon 3y ago
    ouch

Simplest explanation is it was all PR hype.

by tjpnz 3y ago

Simplest explanation is it was all PR hype.

schleck8 3y ago

You are telling me Google Assistant and Alexa aren't sentient ASI?

deleted 3y ago
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refulgentis 3y ago
Let's not flatten the differences between ChatGPT and those (your humble source worked on Google Assistant and appreciates your kindness)

yreg 3y ago

But Google did discover the tech the current AI craze is based on.

pzo 3y ago
xerox as well invented computer mouse and GUI as we know it.
- yreg 3y ago
  And you wouldn't accuse Xerox of doing "PR hype". Xerox did the exact opposite thing, they had not realized the value of research done in PARC.
m00x 3y ago
Doesn't mean they know how to make it into a product.
- tjpnz 3y ago
  A common failure mode for startups and a reminder of how universal those lessons are. Whether it would be the death knell of Google we'll have to wait a bit longer.
  - sangnoir 3y ago
    > Whether it would be the death knell of Google we'll have to wait a bit longer. I don't understand the trope on HN that OpenAI is a competitor to Google. I do not think Google has the appetite or DNA to be purely an AI API vendor; I don't think selling APIs is as profitable as Google current business. Google investing in Anthropic is a good, cheap hedge against the low-probability (IMO) event that LLMs somehow displace the search results page and display ads.
- yreg 3y ago
  Still not just "PR hype".

billythemaniam 3y ago

Google engineers invented most of the primary innovations in NLP in the last decade, such as transformers and word2vec which started it all, that led to the current stack that OpenAI is built on. Their best public models certainly lag OpenAI, but it certainly isn't vaporware.

m00x 3y ago
Researchers, not engineers.
- Der_Einzige 3y ago
  Researchers are engineers in most industry jobs

fidotron 3y ago

The simplest is Google's caste of middle managers are more obstructive to the company than enabling it.

strangesmells02 3y ago
Caste is an accurate word to describe it.
- typon 3y ago
  ouch