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This looks like a very well-designed and functional product. From an engineering standpoint, I genuinely applaud your work. As someone who works remote, this s

This looks like a very well-designed and functional product. From an engineering standpoint, I genuinely applaud your work. As someone who works remote, this seems like a nightmare and I hope my company never adopts anything like this.

ann_kasumova 3y ago
Ahahha thank you so much for your comment! We think about the way of promotion to show that it is not a nightmare!)
- marcosdumay 3y ago
  Well, good luck with that. As of now, every line from your product features is an instant "nope" from me. Also, the short description of "burnout prevention and employees health tracker" very obviously mean the opposite of what it says. So if your product doesn't actually threaten burnout victims or helps management in heath-based discrimination, you should think on something completely different to say here.
  - ann_kasumova 3y ago
    Got you! Thank you again for your attention and feedback!
  - barbazoo 3y ago
    I wonder if this is just not the right crowd. I bet there are workers that crave this where it wouldn't interfere with their productivity.
itslennysfault 3y ago
That was my exact thought. Cool looking product. I'd legit start applying for new jobs instantly if my company required this tool.
- ann_kasumova 3y ago
  Hi! Thank you for your comment! As an employee of the company and as a person, this is of course understandable. But what would you do if an employee of your company did not want to use this software, although it does not violate his privacy?
  - adapiz 3y ago
    >although it does not violate his privacy Can you please elaborate what's your definition of privacy?
hotnfresh 3y ago
Concur, stressed out just reading the marketing page. This looks unpleasant enough I'd probably leave a place that adopted it and didn't reverse course fast, and I've got at least an average tolerance (by tech standards) for poor workplaces. Maybe some non-tech departments would like it? IDK... sales?
- ann_kasumova 3y ago
  Thank you for your comment! I understand your point of view! There are many different situations, for example, for some it is unacceptable, but people from poor countries cannot get a job remotely, due to trust issues with the employer, and for them it would be a great tool to facilitate their recruitment.
  - hotnfresh 3y ago
    Ah, this adds some useful context to the motivation for the product. I follow what you're aiming for now, I think.
barbazoo 3y ago
> You no longer need to call colleagues - you are already in touch. Always. Just wave your hand and start talking. Colleagues will immediately hear and see you. Just like in a real office. I thought this was satire first :)
- hotnfresh 3y ago
  > Finger and nose > No one will see you picking your nose The moment you touch your nose, your live avatar will immediately become very blurred. Relatedly, this is actual copy from the page. Emoji will probably get eaten by HN: there's a nose and up-pointing-finger emoji after the first occurrence of "nose" in the second quoted part.
  - ann_kasumova 3y ago
    Yes, exactly. Is this not good?)
    - hotnfresh 3y ago
      Oh, it's not exactly bad, it's just another thing that's surprising enough (though not necessarily actually a bad idea!) that it reads almost like parody.
- dingnuts 3y ago
  and it's so so so much worse than a real office because you can feel the stare of the always on camera the whole day, whereas in a real office you know if someone is staring at you I'd quit so fast if my company adopted this. It wouldn't even be a choice, it'd be like having someone stand behind me and watch me work. I can't do it, I freeze up, I panic, I have an anxiety attack, and I get nothing done. Eventually I quit before they put me on a PIP. I tried to explain this once to a manager who insisted on moving me to a high traffic location where I could not focus, and wound up eventually quitting (to go remote, to avoid this problem) when I was not productive. This product is a nightmare.
  - 3y ago
Anticlockwise 3y ago
Agreed. I've used a tool like this (sococo) once that I liked for a while. It had the ability to go into an office and close the door. So you'd see the avatar as not available and would have to "knock". That was better, but really only good when we were a small team. Also it's super hard to provide zoom-quality voice and video, and they couldn't, so it was glitchy and we eventually stopped. But it was nice because if you were taking a break you could drop into a "public" room and anyone else taking a break at the same time would be able to drop by and say hi. And as a manager, sometimes I would catch folks having chats and ask if I could join and it would be OK. This one seems entirely worse than sococo. It drops the idea of physical space and you're just always on with everyone. Ugh.

ann_kasumova 3y ago

Ahahha thank you so much for your comment! We think about the way of promotion to show that it is not a nightmare!)

marcosdumay 3y ago
Well, good luck with that. As of now, every line from your product features is an instant "nope" from me. Also, the short description of "burnout prevention and employees health tracker" very obviously mean the opposite of what it says. So if your product doesn't actually threaten burnout victims or helps management in heath-based discrimination, you should think on something completely different to say here.
- ann_kasumova 3y ago
  Got you! Thank you again for your attention and feedback!
- barbazoo 3y ago
  I wonder if this is just not the right crowd. I bet there are workers that crave this where it wouldn't interfere with their productivity.

itslennysfault 3y ago

That was my exact thought. Cool looking product. I'd legit start applying for new jobs instantly if my company required this tool.

ann_kasumova 3y ago
Hi! Thank you for your comment! As an employee of the company and as a person, this is of course understandable. But what would you do if an employee of your company did not want to use this software, although it does not violate his privacy?
- adapiz 3y ago
  >although it does not violate his privacy Can you please elaborate what's your definition of privacy?

hotnfresh 3y ago

Concur, stressed out just reading the marketing page. This looks unpleasant enough I'd probably leave a place that adopted it and didn't reverse course fast, and I've got at least an average tolerance (by tech standards) for poor workplaces. Maybe some non-tech departments would like it? IDK... sales?

ann_kasumova 3y ago
Thank you for your comment! I understand your point of view! There are many different situations, for example, for some it is unacceptable, but people from poor countries cannot get a job remotely, due to trust issues with the employer, and for them it would be a great tool to facilitate their recruitment.
- hotnfresh 3y ago
  Ah, this adds some useful context to the motivation for the product. I follow what you're aiming for now, I think.

barbazoo 3y ago

> You no longer need to call colleagues - you are already in touch. Always. Just wave your hand and start talking. Colleagues will immediately hear and see you. Just like in a real office. I thought this was satire first :)

hotnfresh 3y ago
> Finger and nose > No one will see you picking your nose The moment you touch your nose, your live avatar will immediately become very blurred. Relatedly, this is actual copy from the page. Emoji will probably get eaten by HN: there's a nose and up-pointing-finger emoji after the first occurrence of "nose" in the second quoted part.
- ann_kasumova 3y ago
  Yes, exactly. Is this not good?)
  - hotnfresh 3y ago
    Oh, it's not exactly bad, it's just another thing that's surprising enough (though not necessarily actually a bad idea!) that it reads almost like parody.
dingnuts 3y ago
and it's so so so much worse than a real office because you can feel the stare of the always on camera the whole day, whereas in a real office you know if someone is staring at you I'd quit so fast if my company adopted this. It wouldn't even be a choice, it'd be like having someone stand behind me and watch me work. I can't do it, I freeze up, I panic, I have an anxiety attack, and I get nothing done. Eventually I quit before they put me on a PIP. I tried to explain this once to a manager who insisted on moving me to a high traffic location where I could not focus, and wound up eventually quitting (to go remote, to avoid this problem) when I was not productive. This product is a nightmare.
- 3y ago

Anticlockwise 3y ago

Agreed. I've used a tool like this (sococo) once that I liked for a while. It had the ability to go into an office and close the door. So you'd see the avatar as not available and would have to "knock". That was better, but really only good when we were a small team. Also it's super hard to provide zoom-quality voice and video, and they couldn't, so it was glitchy and we eventually stopped. But it was nice because if you were taking a break you could drop into a "public" room and anyone else taking a break at the same time would be able to drop by and say hi. And as a manager, sometimes I would catch folks having chats and ask if I could join and it would be OK. This one seems entirely worse than sococo. It drops the idea of physical space and you're just always on with everyone. Ugh.