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I have so many issues with the underlying context of this article. Its choice of neo-christian metaphor. It’s assumptions of good vs evil. The subtle hints that

I have so many issues with the underlying context of this article. Its choice of neo-christian metaphor. It’s assumptions of good vs evil. The subtle hints that they are your savior yet can’t muster more than 2 quotes on their tech from customers. The article could have easily gone with another metaphor or needle->haystack rather than invoke subliminal God complexes. I’m also curious as to what more you bring to the table over Materialize. CTE’s, etc. How about a blog post where you leave the holier-than-thou christian symbolism for actual tech features and why one should consider you for their data engine needs. Beyond trying to see if The Lord has admin access.

j45 3y ago
It might not be for me either, but I found I was able to read it through a lens of humour and see some of it as an attempt at humour. The world is not responsible to not trigger us, as I’m sure references to some things do.
- reactordev 3y ago
  I don’t find cults humorous. I know what you are saying though I just think there’s dozens of other ways that could have been said. It shows a lack of professionalism in their communications department to me. Be that as it may, I still read the article, I browsed the site, I looked for more tech evidence and reasoning for adoption and found it lacking.
  - camgunz 3y ago
    There's no reference to or invocation of cults, just a playful use of the cartoonish idea of evil people. I'd find it distasteful if there were like, references to kool-aid or Manson or whatever, but there aren't. Is it your position no one should poke fun at the idea of "evil"? Honestly that just seems like no fun.
    - reactordev 3y ago
      Belief in a mystical Lord is a cult belief. Yes they use it in satire but I don’t think religious tongue in cheek has any place in the business world unless your business is selling snake oil or bigotry.
      - camgunz 3y ago
        There's a pretty big difference between what most people mean when they say "cult" (compounds, suicide pacts, etc) and your average person who goes to church/mass/temple once a week. Like, feel free to be a big stick in the mud about this, but this is a lighthearted example. It definitely doesn't mean their product is trash or their business is fraudulent. That's bonkers.
        j45 3y ago
        It’s definitely lighthearted.. not possibly a Will Ferrell type of absurdity or.
    - j45 3y ago
      Where Religion is communicated as as a proxy for cult, it seems to be based on an experience and/or assumption that all religions are the same because an individuals person experience of one religion obviously represents the totality of all religions and the only experiences that are possible. It’s accidental righteousness to carry on this evangelical view even when dissociating from one particular experience or thread But, let’s do yoga.
  - hyperliner 3y ago
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  - j45 3y ago
    Oh I’m severely allergic to cults too. What I’m more allergic to is people bashing other over the head with their personal interpretations. So in a way my allergy is to righteousness. Say you or I believe something is a cult. It might even be true. But still it’s one’s personal interpretation on what a cult is, and if something is a cult and furthermore you may be trying trying to externally validate your world viewpoint about religion at the expense of others, which can be another form of evangelism, and might be a remnant of said cult. There’s lots of ways to bring up about cults. Righteousness ain’t it. To help anyone read in between the lines, there’s no need to let religion trigger you. If religion is a dominant world viewpoint on god, to some Atheism is a god centric view too (god doesn’t existing) is too. Then people will wiggle into spirituality and agnosticism, and that too can be seen as being subjective and a deeply personal interpretation. So most of the world could probably agree that no belief owns the exclusive path to kindness or goodness. At the same time if something is working for someone and something else works for you it seems plausible something else might work for someone else. Righteousness is an issue tho.
    - gigatexal 3y ago
      This is entirely the kind of discussion that they should avoid by keeping the blog about the tech. The choice to use religious language and topics just invites all of this and takes away from the tech.
      - j45 3y ago
        I can’t say whether it takes away from conversation or not. I Generally people can’t openly entertain a viewpoint that isn’t theirs as much as they’d like. This was started by someone else so you are welcome to speak to them. All I see is software developers wanting to create entire working worlds and universes :)
        reactordev 3y ago
        I see religion or “mass think” as a cult. No matter its source, doctrine, humble beginnings, or commercial perversion. Free thought, respect for all life, and a moral compass on the “Lawful Good” side. I can take metaphor when the content suggests it or if it adds a layer to the story. In this context, it’s completely out of place. I also respect your right to follow the group think. If you find comfort in turning off your brain, go for it. People do it in different ways. For me, riding a wave or skateboarding has a way of turning off my brain and rejuvenating my soul. I studied Catholicism, Buddhism, Judaism, Tao, I Ching, and many more. Today, in the name of religion, there’s a war going on: so to use this kind of rhetoric or metaphor for explaining your blazingly fast sql engine is just extremely poor taste. Yes, I will bash religions, all of them, until they stop waging war in the name of them.
jasonjmcghee 3y ago
I think anything in the general realm of satire is a risky choice in a professional setting unless you have a well known personal brand. Everything you write on a company blog is a representation of the company's identity. The company is implicitly saying "I support this".
vt85 3y ago
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archiewood 3y ago
They have a table comparing what they are doing vs materialize in the FAQs in the docs (not super easy to find) - https://docs.epsio.io/faq/ https://docs.epsio.io/faq/ On a quick read, seems like the core difference is around whether you query the streaming engine (Materialize) or still interact with your db. Other differences are then downstream from this.
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cheema33 3y ago
I found the references to god and religion in a technical article off-putting as well. I tried hard to think of it as an attempt at humor, but I could not shake the feeling that the writer was a very religious person. I tend to value the technical opinions of deeply religious people less. If you actually believe in magic, then I am going to have a hard time trusting you with anything critical.

j45 3y ago

It might not be for me either, but I found I was able to read it through a lens of humour and see some of it as an attempt at humour. The world is not responsible to not trigger us, as I’m sure references to some things do.

reactordev 3y ago
I don’t find cults humorous. I know what you are saying though I just think there’s dozens of other ways that could have been said. It shows a lack of professionalism in their communications department to me. Be that as it may, I still read the article, I browsed the site, I looked for more tech evidence and reasoning for adoption and found it lacking.
- camgunz 3y ago
  There's no reference to or invocation of cults, just a playful use of the cartoonish idea of evil people. I'd find it distasteful if there were like, references to kool-aid or Manson or whatever, but there aren't. Is it your position no one should poke fun at the idea of "evil"? Honestly that just seems like no fun.
  - reactordev 3y ago
    Belief in a mystical Lord is a cult belief. Yes they use it in satire but I don’t think religious tongue in cheek has any place in the business world unless your business is selling snake oil or bigotry.
    - camgunz 3y ago
      There's a pretty big difference between what most people mean when they say "cult" (compounds, suicide pacts, etc) and your average person who goes to church/mass/temple once a week. Like, feel free to be a big stick in the mud about this, but this is a lighthearted example. It definitely doesn't mean their product is trash or their business is fraudulent. That's bonkers.
      - j45 3y ago
        It’s definitely lighthearted.. not possibly a Will Ferrell type of absurdity or.
  - j45 3y ago
    Where Religion is communicated as as a proxy for cult, it seems to be based on an experience and/or assumption that all religions are the same because an individuals person experience of one religion obviously represents the totality of all religions and the only experiences that are possible. It’s accidental righteousness to carry on this evangelical view even when dissociating from one particular experience or thread But, let’s do yoga.
- hyperliner 3y ago
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- j45 3y ago
  Oh I’m severely allergic to cults too. What I’m more allergic to is people bashing other over the head with their personal interpretations. So in a way my allergy is to righteousness. Say you or I believe something is a cult. It might even be true. But still it’s one’s personal interpretation on what a cult is, and if something is a cult and furthermore you may be trying trying to externally validate your world viewpoint about religion at the expense of others, which can be another form of evangelism, and might be a remnant of said cult. There’s lots of ways to bring up about cults. Righteousness ain’t it. To help anyone read in between the lines, there’s no need to let religion trigger you. If religion is a dominant world viewpoint on god, to some Atheism is a god centric view too (god doesn’t existing) is too. Then people will wiggle into spirituality and agnosticism, and that too can be seen as being subjective and a deeply personal interpretation. So most of the world could probably agree that no belief owns the exclusive path to kindness or goodness. At the same time if something is working for someone and something else works for you it seems plausible something else might work for someone else. Righteousness is an issue tho.
  - gigatexal 3y ago
    This is entirely the kind of discussion that they should avoid by keeping the blog about the tech. The choice to use religious language and topics just invites all of this and takes away from the tech.
    - j45 3y ago
      I can’t say whether it takes away from conversation or not. I Generally people can’t openly entertain a viewpoint that isn’t theirs as much as they’d like. This was started by someone else so you are welcome to speak to them. All I see is software developers wanting to create entire working worlds and universes :)
      - reactordev 3y ago
        I see religion or “mass think” as a cult. No matter its source, doctrine, humble beginnings, or commercial perversion. Free thought, respect for all life, and a moral compass on the “Lawful Good” side. I can take metaphor when the content suggests it or if it adds a layer to the story. In this context, it’s completely out of place. I also respect your right to follow the group think. If you find comfort in turning off your brain, go for it. People do it in different ways. For me, riding a wave or skateboarding has a way of turning off my brain and rejuvenating my soul. I studied Catholicism, Buddhism, Judaism, Tao, I Ching, and many more. Today, in the name of religion, there’s a war going on: so to use this kind of rhetoric or metaphor for explaining your blazingly fast sql engine is just extremely poor taste. Yes, I will bash religions, all of them, until they stop waging war in the name of them.

jasonjmcghee 3y ago

I think anything in the general realm of satire is a risky choice in a professional setting unless you have a well known personal brand. Everything you write on a company blog is a representation of the company's identity. The company is implicitly saying "I support this".

vt85 3y ago

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archiewood 3y ago

They have a table comparing what they are doing vs materialize in the FAQs in the docs (not super easy to find) - https://docs.epsio.io/faq/ https://docs.epsio.io/faq/ On a quick read, seems like the core difference is around whether you query the streaming engine (Materialize) or still interact with your db. Other differences are then downstream from this.

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cheema33 3y ago

I found the references to god and religion in a technical article off-putting as well. I tried hard to think of it as an attempt at humor, but I could not shake the feeling that the writer was a very religious person. I tend to value the technical opinions of deeply religious people less. If you actually believe in magic, then I am going to have a hard time trusting you with anything critical.