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So I followed the link: https://balkaninsight.com/2023/09/25/who-benefits-inside-the-eus-fight-over-scanning-for-child-sex-content/ https://balkaninsight.com/20

by js8 3y ago

So I followed the link: https://balkaninsight.com/2023/09/25/who-benefits-inside-the-eus-fight-over-scanning-for-child-sex-content/ https://balkaninsight.com/2023/09/25/who-benefits-inside-the... There is a picture titled "The Action Day promoted by Brave Movement in front of the EP". You know how one can immediately tell whether a demonstration is a genuine effort that comes from people, or is organized by some shady institution? Look at the signs they have. Genuine demonstrations have home-made signs on pieces of carton, all looking different. Astroturfing operations have signs that all look the same and are professionally printed. Also, when somebody says "think of the children", I think of billionaires, it's usually closer to the intended meaning. :-)

wolverine876 3y ago
Is that true? Maybe someone provided signs to people who showed up genuinely. Maybe someone provided a template online.
- ClumsyPilot 3y ago
  maybe some of the protestors accidentally found $1,000 in cash each at the ralley
- orwin 3y ago
  Yes, it's true. Source:I've participated to 12 demonstration this year (I missed two :/).
- dan-robertson 3y ago
  You should expect to see a mix at large demonstrations. Some people will make their own, others will be attending with a local special interest or political group who may be more organised and print matching signs. For a small demonstration, it may well be attended by members of the same organisation that organised the demonstration. All the matching signs prove is that only one organisation is significantly involved. If strikers on a picket line have matching signs made by their union, does that mean it’s organised by a shady institution and not a genuine effort by people. It seems strange to me to require small demonstrations to pretend to not be organised. I think better heuristics should be found.
marcosdumay 3y ago
I dunno about the professionally printed part. It's so easy and cheap to get something printed nowadays that it's often cheaper than to get the materials on a brick-and-mortar store, and has less of a lead-time as drawing something at home. But all of them looking the same, on high-quality paper with glossy finish, yeah, that implies somebody is organizing it.
kmlx 3y ago
> Genuine demonstrations have home-made signs on pieces of carton, all looking different. this is no longer true. protests in europe have pre printed signs which are distributed by the organisers to protesters before the march starts.

by js8 3y ago

wolverine876 3y ago

Is that true? Maybe someone provided signs to people who showed up genuinely. Maybe someone provided a template online.

ClumsyPilot 3y ago
maybe some of the protestors accidentally found $1,000 in cash each at the ralley
orwin 3y ago
Yes, it's true. Source:I've participated to 12 demonstration this year (I missed two :/).
dan-robertson 3y ago
You should expect to see a mix at large demonstrations. Some people will make their own, others will be attending with a local special interest or political group who may be more organised and print matching signs. For a small demonstration, it may well be attended by members of the same organisation that organised the demonstration. All the matching signs prove is that only one organisation is significantly involved. If strikers on a picket line have matching signs made by their union, does that mean it’s organised by a shady institution and not a genuine effort by people. It seems strange to me to require small demonstrations to pretend to not be organised. I think better heuristics should be found.

marcosdumay 3y ago

I dunno about the professionally printed part. It's so easy and cheap to get something printed nowadays that it's often cheaper than to get the materials on a brick-and-mortar store, and has less of a lead-time as drawing something at home. But all of them looking the same, on high-quality paper with glossy finish, yeah, that implies somebody is organizing it.

kmlx 3y ago

> Genuine demonstrations have home-made signs on pieces of carton, all looking different. this is no longer true. protests in europe have pre printed signs which are distributed by the organisers to protesters before the march starts.