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No the EU was not wrong to mandate a standard. It was a broad comparison between the European approach (bureaucratic, lots of talk and regulation) versus the Am

by jcfrei 3y ago

No the EU was not wrong to mandate a standard. It was a broad comparison between the European approach (bureaucratic, lots of talk and regulation) versus the American one (just getting things done). For the record, I'm European myself.

seanmcdirmid 3y ago
China mandated a standard also...in this case one completely different from Europe or North America. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GB/T_charging_standard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GB/T_charging_standard
- irrational 3y ago
  We need a fourth standard to unite the three! https://xkcd.com/927/ https://xkcd.com/927/
  - Dylan16807 3y ago
    Linking xkcd is fun but what would uniting these physical plugs even mean? Very rarely can plugs be combined.
    - p1mrx 3y ago
      The connector would look something like https://www.google.com/search?q=pin+art+toy&tbm=isch https://www.google.com/search?q=pin+art+toy&tbm=isch
      - Smoosh 3y ago
        I was thinking the cable would be https://www.amazon.com.au/Universal-Charging-Compatible-Multiple-Blutooth/dp/B09WTVBRC6 https://www.amazon.com.au/Universal-Charging-Compatible-Mult...
matthewdgreen 3y ago
The US didn’t just get things done, though. We also did a huge government initiative to standardize a connector, including allocating billions to charging networks that adopted it. This connector wasn’t Tesla’s because Tesla’s connector wasn’t open/libre. Tesla opened their (physical) connector after it became obvious that it was either that, or be forced to abandon theirs entirely. Also: as I understand it: NACS is only the physical Tesla connector; the digital elements (protocols etc.) are still CCS. That’s important.
- irjustin 3y ago
  > We also did a huge government initiative to standardize a connector, including allocating billions to charging networks that adopted it. Butttttt... Tesla was the one to drive all that.
  - deleted 3y ago
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  - Kbelicius 3y ago
    No they were not. Government allocated billions for building charging networks with connectors that are used by more than one car manufacturer which drove Tesla to open their connector.

by jcfrei 3y ago

seanmcdirmid 3y ago

China mandated a standard also...in this case one completely different from Europe or North America. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GB/T_charging_standard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GB/T_charging_standard

irrational 3y ago
We need a fourth standard to unite the three! https://xkcd.com/927/ https://xkcd.com/927/
- Dylan16807 3y ago
  Linking xkcd is fun but what would uniting these physical plugs even mean? Very rarely can plugs be combined.
  - p1mrx 3y ago
    The connector would look something like https://www.google.com/search?q=pin+art+toy&tbm=isch https://www.google.com/search?q=pin+art+toy&tbm=isch
    - Smoosh 3y ago
      I was thinking the cable would be https://www.amazon.com.au/Universal-Charging-Compatible-Multiple-Blutooth/dp/B09WTVBRC6 https://www.amazon.com.au/Universal-Charging-Compatible-Mult...

matthewdgreen 3y ago

The US didn’t just get things done, though. We also did a huge government initiative to standardize a connector, including allocating billions to charging networks that adopted it. This connector wasn’t Tesla’s because Tesla’s connector wasn’t open/libre. Tesla opened their (physical) connector after it became obvious that it was either that, or be forced to abandon theirs entirely. Also: as I understand it: NACS is only the physical Tesla connector; the digital elements (protocols etc.) are still CCS. That’s important.

irjustin 3y ago
> We also did a huge government initiative to standardize a connector, including allocating billions to charging networks that adopted it. Butttttt... Tesla was the one to drive all that.
- deleted 3y ago
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- Kbelicius 3y ago
  No they were not. Government allocated billions for building charging networks with connectors that are used by more than one car manufacturer which drove Tesla to open their connector.