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This is the more interesting page of that website imo. https://subsidytracker.goodjobsfirst.org/megadeals https://subsidytracker.goodjobsfirst.org/megadeals S
by TapWaterBandit 3y ago
This is the more interesting page of that website imo.
https://subsidytracker.goodjobsfirst.org/megadeals https://subsidytracker.goodjobsfirst.org/megadeals
Shows the companies that receive subsidies and how much. I will note that Tesla isn't close to being the largest recipient of subsidies but recieves by far the most outrage.
- mgiannopoulos 3y agoSomehow Boeing getting billions is not sexy enough to discuss on the internet, unless we can fit in “Musk” in the headline in some way.
- refulgentis 3y agoI don't think it's the case that discussing X means people are afraid to discuss Y. No cover up, bias, or suspicion needed to explain why that's not mentioned explicitly every time other companies are subsidized. :)
- mgiannopoulos 3y agoI didn’t say anything about people being afraid to discuss anything. But a search on this site for discussion on subsidies to other companies than Tesla would probably get much less results.
- dartos 3y agoI mean we need safe reliable planes more than we need teslas cars.
- ohthatsnotright 3y agoBoeing hasn't repeatedly shat on subsidies and said they're self-made while pocketing massive government benefits.
- olddustytrail 3y agoIt seems perfectly reasonable to me to want a subsidy abolished and also use it while it exists. Presumably they want it abolished for everyone not just themselves.
- mgiannopoulos 3y agoIf you compare these subsidies with the total revenues and profits of Tesla over the last 15 years, you should reach an interesting conclusion.
- starbase 3y agoI looked it up and $2.8B is just 3 weeks of the company's revenue. Or two months of their gross profit. Or 3 months of their net income. Remarkable.
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- ulrashida 3y agoThis may be due to most of the company CEO's receiving these subsidies don't make a regular point of speaking out against government subsidies. It's not necessarily the subsidy that attracts criticism, it's the hypocrisy.
- Workaccount2 3y agoReally it's because most CEOS don't make a point of speaking out at all. If Musk was a standard CEO with a PR team handling all messaging, the country would still love him.
- ars 3y agoIt's not hypocrisy to believe no one should have subsidies including oneself. It just means you want a level playing field, not a distorted one. And taking a subsidy when you don't believe in them, is reasonable too, because you don't really have other options.
- ulrashida 3y agoIt's not hypocritical to believe something, but it is hypocritical to act in a way contrary to the belief you are espousing. A usable definition of hypocrisy is "the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform". In this case, a belief that car companies should not be subsidized by government while simultaneously accepting subsidies from government. The act (accepting subsidies) does not match the stated belief (shouldn't accept subsidies). To take it a step further, he could be less hypocritical if he changed his stance to along the lines of "there shouldn't be EV subsidies unless the company needs them to stay in business", but to my knowledge that is not his position.
- thunky 3y agoGiving a handout is not the same thing as taking one, so it's really not hypocritical to take a handout while believing the handout should not exist. For example, someone could be opposed to student loan debt forgiveness in principle, but that same person would probably not rip up their check.