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In my personal opinion, we should fix this in the streaming market -- basically force media producers to be blind as to the buyer (as with DVDs), if they sell a

In my personal opinion, we should fix this in the streaming market -- basically force media producers to be blind as to the buyer (as with DVDs), if they sell at $X per unit, in order to maintain their copyright then $X is the sale price and any distributor can acquire a license to redistribute (for private use) a work at that price. I would give a grace period to allow for exclusives; 2 years from release, maybe. Popcorn Time (free torrenting service) but with a payment of a few cents for each work would be possible. Instead of subscription to lots of expensive services. IPR is a system maintained by the democratic government, make it work for the people.

ta1243 3y ago
I can't remember the last time I wanted to watch something which wasn't available to buy on amazon or apple > with a payment of a few cents for each work would be possible This is your problem. You expect millions of hours of work to be available to you for pretty much free.
- pbhjpbhj 3y ago
  If your only issue is price then I'm happy, market will decide that surely, I'm not suggesting prices be changed from what they are now just distribution monopolies would be removed. That said, how much should I pay for an episode of a TV show from 30 years ago where the producers are dead and the other creators are mostly comfortably living in retirement having already earned their living and been paid for their work? The offspring of the people working on the show in many cases probably don't even know that their forbears did such work.
- allarm 3y ago
  > I can't remember the last time I wanted to watch something… …filmed in the USA, I assume? There’s a tremendous amount of content from other countries that’s not available on any major streaming platform. I wouldn't be surprised if there were a lot of the USA movies that have never been streamed as well. > You expect millions of hours of work to be available to you for pretty much free. I don’t think there’s a legal way to watch the majority of movies that have ever been filmed.
rainbowzootsuit 3y ago
I would say The Scene have solved it by exercising the first sail doctrine. First to the topsite gets the the 0sec.
- pbhjpbhj 3y ago
  Can you give some more details? "The Scene" is a very common name. Presumably you're taking about first-sale doctrine in USA, is that relevant to re-broadcasting?
  - rainbowzootsuit 3y ago
    I was admittedly being a bit tongue in cheek about it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warez_scene https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warez_scene The DVDs avoid all the licensing issues that properly licensed streaming media has because the profit and control for the rights holder ends when the sale of the media happens. Similarly, the profit and control of the media ends for the rights holder when it enters The Scene for release amongst their myriad distribution channels.

ta1243 3y ago

I can't remember the last time I wanted to watch something which wasn't available to buy on amazon or apple > with a payment of a few cents for each work would be possible This is your problem. You expect millions of hours of work to be available to you for pretty much free.

pbhjpbhj 3y ago
If your only issue is price then I'm happy, market will decide that surely, I'm not suggesting prices be changed from what they are now just distribution monopolies would be removed. That said, how much should I pay for an episode of a TV show from 30 years ago where the producers are dead and the other creators are mostly comfortably living in retirement having already earned their living and been paid for their work? The offspring of the people working on the show in many cases probably don't even know that their forbears did such work.
allarm 3y ago
> I can't remember the last time I wanted to watch something… …filmed in the USA, I assume? There’s a tremendous amount of content from other countries that’s not available on any major streaming platform. I wouldn't be surprised if there were a lot of the USA movies that have never been streamed as well. > You expect millions of hours of work to be available to you for pretty much free. I don’t think there’s a legal way to watch the majority of movies that have ever been filmed.

rainbowzootsuit 3y ago

I would say The Scene have solved it by exercising the first sail doctrine. First to the topsite gets the the 0sec.

pbhjpbhj 3y ago
Can you give some more details? "The Scene" is a very common name. Presumably you're taking about first-sale doctrine in USA, is that relevant to re-broadcasting?
- rainbowzootsuit 3y ago
  I was admittedly being a bit tongue in cheek about it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warez_scene https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warez_scene The DVDs avoid all the licensing issues that properly licensed streaming media has because the profit and control for the rights holder ends when the sale of the media happens. Similarly, the profit and control of the media ends for the rights holder when it enters The Scene for release amongst their myriad distribution channels.