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There's a new map style on OpenStreetMap.org

435 points by gslin 3y ago

aendruk 3y ago
What’s the explanation for the Martian look at z≤8? e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=8/40/-111&layers=P https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=8/40/-111&layers=P And it looks like this is a proprietary fork of Carto? Its inclusion on the OSM website is essentially an advertisement?
- pipe2devnull 3y ago
  If you zoom out all the way you can see color corresponds with elevation. Reddish is highish elevation.
eternityforest 3y ago
Doesn't seem to have a license in the attribution overlay. Is this not CC-BY-SA like the rest? Is it served by Tracestack? Can you use it in very small FOSS apps without API keys? It looks really nice visually though.
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KronisLV 3y ago
This is really cool! Though I find myself looking for a provider of geocoding and navigation for a freelance project of mine. I know that I could probably self-host OSRM and OpenMapTiles, but the hardware requirements make using a cloud service feel easier. At the same time I can't really decide between something like Mapbox and MapTiler (or possibly even cheaper alternatives that I don't know about), since a lot of the APIs feel a bit vendor locked. On the other hand, it's nice how many options there are, even though the industry feels like it's moving towards vector tiles which perform mich worse for me, albeit look better.
Broussebar 3y ago
It looks beautiful especially the way altitude is displayed, on large scale the colors look great and when zooming in you get detailed shadows.
stinos 3y ago
Have been using https://opentopomap.org https://opentopomap.org for this for a while, and depending on what you're looking for it still has some advantages: does show the numbers on all height lines (osm only does the 50m one in my area for some reason, leaving you to guess whether the next one is 40m or 60m since that is not always obvious - seems like a key thing for a topographic map), does show the house numbers.
jokoon 3y ago
I love osm, but the raster generators are not well documented. I want to just make my own raster map for a limited area and it's not trivial to do. So the data is open, but the software is either not free or too hairy or poorly documented so you can pay them to use it. It's still better than Google map.
- arboles 3y ago
  Is this not good? (Genuine question if you tried it. I never used it, I just had it bookmarked because the README looked good.) https://github.com/enzet/map-machine https://github.com/enzet/map-machine
sydd 3y ago
While I love OSM the layers are bad UX. Currently the main site ( https://www.openstreetmap.org https://www.openstreetmap.org ) displays 7 layers: - Standard -- OK, lets say this the universal default. The name is a quite non-descriptive, why not call it roads? Or driving? - CyclOSM -- Why not call it cycle map? This is some internal project name? - Cycle map -- duplicate, why does it need 2? - Transport map -- What kind of transport? Call it "Public Transport". - Tracestrack Topo -- no idea what this means. - OVPNKarte -- again no idea. Looks like another public transport map. Why does it need 2? - Humanitarian -- Here I have really no idea. Is this for disaster relief personnel, so it displays hospitals and such?
- aqwsde 3y ago
  "ÖPNV" (Öffentlicher PersonenNahVerkehr) is the German abbreviation for "public transport". And "Karte" <-> "map"
- usrusr 3y ago
  OSM presentation configurations are a bit like Linux distributions (only much, much smaller): yes, having more than one causes a lot of seemingly avoidable mental load, but there is little doubt that the design by committee implied by a single version would be much worse.
  - junon 3y ago
    Give people the option to create, import and export their own on the official site, and a means for browsing a catalog of them. You can infer how good they are (and thus their ranking) by how many interactions are made with the map or something, or just use a rating system that can be done anonymously. No design by committee, and no random, unclear layers for the average user.
    - usrusr 3y ago
      The map on osm.org is leaflet based, pre-rendered png tiles. Each theme is a huge global tile pyramid, and because they are osm and not some random osm redistributor they better have those pyramids refreshed quite frequently. No, you don't simply create a "themehub" platform on the side.
holistio 3y ago
Can somebody ELI5 what hierarchical place rendering in China is?
hilbert42 3y ago
To anyone at Mastodon reading this, I cannot read this article without turning JavaScript on! Yes, I've read your message to that effect many times. I can turn on JavaScript but I won't, especially for you Mastodon—because you portray yourselves as an alternative to those services such as Google, Facebook, MS, etc. that use JS for nefarious purposes. If you were truly acting as an alternative and acting in good faith then you wouldn't enforce the large and slow overhead of JavaScript onto users without also offering a JS-free option. Moreover, JS is also a security liability which makes your action even worse. Sure, offer JavaScript to those who prefer to use it, and to those who don't know how to turn it off, but to enforce its use is really a form of discrimination—discrimination against those of us who've been arguing for an alternative to Big Tech for years. The web's been rendered an utter mess because of JavaScript—not because of the language per se—but because of those who've its power to abuse and abuse and disadvantage web users for their own ends—we've now reached the point where many of us find the web almost unusable. Mastodon, you've let the side that's fighting for a better web down. Shame on you!
savingsPossible 3y ago
so, how does one use osm for turn by turn navigation on an android phone? I installed OSMand via f-droid and I did not find it very readable
- morbicer 3y ago
  OSMand is powerful but the UI can ve overwhelming. Organic maps seem popular https://organicmaps.app/ https://organicmaps.app/ but I prefer the style of Mapy.cz https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cz.seznam.mapy https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cz.seznam.mapy
RicoElectrico 3y ago
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sva_ 3y ago
That's neat. It seems like it isn't available in OsmAnd though, sadly.
- bscphil 3y ago
  It's odd given that OsmAnd is the most feature complete OSM app for Android that there are so few custom map styles for it. I know the weird format it uses is a contributing factor (I think everyone else uses Mapnik compatible styles). But I find all the included themes really hideous and haven't found a good alternative. There are really good raster styles for outdoor use, so if anyone has advice on adapting an existing theme for OsmAnd I'd be curious to hear about that.
- lom 3y ago
  OsmAnd already has a way of showing elevation in the same manner
- thriftwy 3y ago
  OSM is basically a dataset. Everybody renders this dataset differently unless they are sharing a renderer. Android apps such as Maps.ME and OsmAnd do their own vector renders.
  - sva_ 3y ago
    I think it might be possible via the Online Maps feature by adding an online source, but for that I'd need the url of the source. For example, I can pick CyclOSM as the map tile source both in OsmAnd and on openstreetmap.org.
    - thriftwy 3y ago
      That would defeat the purpose of having a vector map app.
      - lucb1e 3y ago
        ...and add all the benefits of having online slippy maps, yes, nice way of telling the full story I enable this when I want to zoom to a random place in the world without first downloading a 600MB map file, want satellite imagery, or indeed want to view different styles. I wish there was better integration, like being able to also search worldwide with online services when this view is enabled (but it's also not like I got time to implement that myself so I can understand nobody else has gotten around to yet, either).
KirillPanov 3y ago
To use the Mastodon web application, please enable JavaScript. Alternatively, try one of the native apps for Mastodon for your platform.
- wizzwizz4 3y ago
  Works for me. Are you using a web browser? While a webapp client is provided for convenience, upon request, this is a social media site, not a website; there is no canonical HTML representation, so don't be surprised when you don't get one. Try specifying Accept: application/ld+json; profile="https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams" in your request.
  - lucb1e 3y ago
    I don't think that logic holds: Nitter can render an HTML representation just fine. It's not because it's a "social media site" that there cannot be an HTML+CSS representation. Anyway I don't think disabling javascript wholesale is workable these days, so complaining about that is not very constructive (i.e. I sort of agree with you). Especially for open source products, those people should feel free to contribute or sponsor a non-JS version rather than complaining to volunteers to do a ton of extra work for what I suspect is literally no more than a few dozen people on the globe (particularly with noncommercial software like mastodon which isn't going to be annoying when JS is turned on). I should start complaining that sites don't look nice with CSS disabled :P (Sometimes I turn css off using an extension to avoid the rules that make the text thin+gray on a grayish background.)
    - progval 3y ago
      > those people should feel free to contribute or sponsor a non-JS version It will be rejected. Mastodon used to have a good HTML view with progressive enhancement for logged-out users. But in v4.0 they replaced it with the same React app as the loggin-in users, to lower the maintenance cost.
      - lucb1e 3y ago
shrx 3y ago
For some reason, the Tracestrack Topo layer doesn't load for me in firefox.
- kiwijamo 3y ago
  Loads for me Firefox/Windows.
  - gerdesj 3y ago
    .. and me FF/Linux. Parent might like to examine their extensions/network/life choices. I block a shit load of stuff and bizarrely a mapping system used and generated by millions of people just seems to work. This didn't look very pretty but I still got the menus 8) $ links "https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/50.93675/-2.63421&layers=P"
- rstarast 3y ago
  Same here, I get 403s from tile.tracestrack.com Edit: I think it's due to referrer filtering. I can load the tiles fine if I pass 'Referer: https://www.openstreetmap.org https://www.openstreetmap.org', but Firefox sends 'Referer: tile.tracestrack.com'. Presumably that's a measure to preserve privacy, possibly due to some extension (though I've disabled various adblock, tracking protection things...)
  - matchamatcha 3y ago
    Thanks, changing that setting in uMatrix worked for me.
  - lucb1e 3y ago
    What do you use to suppress the referer header? For my job, I needed to know whether to dissuade a customer from using the referrer for CSRF protection. I looked for stats on how many people filter this but could find nothing at all. You're the first person I hear runs this in practice, so maybe I can find usage stats on the software you use. Secondarily, I'd be curious how often you run into trouble!
MaximilianEmel 3y ago
Crosswalks still look the same as sidewalks :(
- Freak_NL 3y ago
  The layer seems closed source, or at least not developed out in the open, so you can't easily file a bug I think.
GauntletWizard 3y ago
This looks nice, unlike Google's recent decision to completely redo their colors to look like Apple's terrible, faded colors.
- aqfamnzc 3y ago
  The reason they use such light, poor contrast colors is that the map is used as a background for things like business ads, the blue navigation line, etc. Yes in the process, it becomes useless as an actual map for looking at.
- tornato7 3y ago
  In my parents' car, the screen doesn't exactly have high dynamic range, and for some reason Google Maps colors are white on white, impossible to tell where the streets are looking at the screen during the day.
  - navane 3y ago
    I keep telling this at my Google maps when I use it as satnav in my car. I'm trying to count which right it is, but I don't see the side streets as they are white with a light grey border on off white. Infuriating. Give me my neon green, purple and black.
  - wkat4242 3y ago
    That's Google design these days. White on light white on sightly darker white. Apparently it's modern and people have thought about it. I guess those people wear sunglasses all day.
- lucb1e 3y ago
  These situations are not the same btw. Not sure if you know, but this style was added as an option in the layers menu. You can use whatever style you like!
simonw 3y ago
Nice. Here's a direct link to view San Francisco using Tracestack Topo: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/37.7846/-122.4304&layers=P https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/37.7846/-122.4304&laye...
shpx 3y ago
Islands which are also states say the name of the island twice at certain zoom levels. https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=10/54.2375/-4.6695&layers=P https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=10/54.2375/-4.6695&layers... https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=10/13.9394/-61.0785&layers=P https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=10/13.9394/-61.0785&layer... https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/16.7342/-62.1730&layers=P https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/16.7342/-62.1730&layer... Topography and map don't match up for Fairway Rock https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/65.6235/-168.7505&layers=P https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/65.6235/-168.7505&laye... Some islands are not named at any zoom level https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=8/49.629/-126.381&layers=P https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=8/49.629/-126.381&layers=... https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=8/63.273/-170.184&layers=P https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=8/63.273/-170.184&layers=... https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=8/71.253/-179.604&layers=P https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=8/71.253/-179.604&layers=...
- colordrops 3y ago
  Are these new problems or pre-existing problems?
  - kibwen 3y ago
    You can click the "layers" button on the side to see how it looks in other layers. For the Isle of Man, other layers only show the name once, or don't show it at all at that close of a zoom level.
    - shpx 3y ago
      Actually the standard layer also says "Isle of Man" twice at a certain zoom https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=9/54.1624/-4.5071 https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=9/54.1624/-4.5071
- lmm 3y ago
  > Islands which are also states say the name of the island twice at certain zoom levels. That seems correct and desirable? They're two distinct things that happen to coincide. Just like a street with a name might also be part (or the entirety) of a numbered route, and we'd want the map to show both.
matheusmoreira 3y ago
It looks awesome!
lucb1e 3y ago
View it on a 3D globe here: https://www.tracestrack.com/#features https://www.tracestrack.com/#features
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DavidKarlas 3y ago
I just wish it displayed buildings at zoom 16(today at 17, while default OSM renderer at 15). And similar for addresses displayed currently at 19, I wish it was at 18, while OSM default renderer displays at 17.

435 points by gslin 3y ago

What’s the explanation for the Martian look at z≤8? e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=8/40/-111&layers=P https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=8/40/-111&layers=P And it looks like this is a proprietary fork of Carto? Its inclusion on the OSM website is essentially an advertisement?

pipe2devnull 3y ago
If you zoom out all the way you can see color corresponds with elevation. Reddish is highish elevation.

eternityforest 3y ago

Doesn't seem to have a license in the attribution overlay. Is this not CC-BY-SA like the rest? Is it served by Tracestack? Can you use it in very small FOSS apps without API keys? It looks really nice visually though.

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KronisLV 3y ago

This is really cool! Though I find myself looking for a provider of geocoding and navigation for a freelance project of mine. I know that I could probably self-host OSRM and OpenMapTiles, but the hardware requirements make using a cloud service feel easier. At the same time I can't really decide between something like Mapbox and MapTiler (or possibly even cheaper alternatives that I don't know about), since a lot of the APIs feel a bit vendor locked. On the other hand, it's nice how many options there are, even though the industry feels like it's moving towards vector tiles which perform mich worse for me, albeit look better.

Broussebar 3y ago

It looks beautiful especially the way altitude is displayed, on large scale the colors look great and when zooming in you get detailed shadows.

stinos 3y ago

Have been using https://opentopomap.org https://opentopomap.org for this for a while, and depending on what you're looking for it still has some advantages: does show the numbers on all height lines (osm only does the 50m one in my area for some reason, leaving you to guess whether the next one is 40m or 60m since that is not always obvious - seems like a key thing for a topographic map), does show the house numbers.

jokoon 3y ago

I love osm, but the raster generators are not well documented. I want to just make my own raster map for a limited area and it's not trivial to do. So the data is open, but the software is either not free or too hairy or poorly documented so you can pay them to use it. It's still better than Google map.

arboles 3y ago
Is this not good? (Genuine question if you tried it. I never used it, I just had it bookmarked because the README looked good.) https://github.com/enzet/map-machine https://github.com/enzet/map-machine

sydd 3y ago

While I love OSM the layers are bad UX. Currently the main site ( https://www.openstreetmap.org https://www.openstreetmap.org ) displays 7 layers: - Standard -- OK, lets say this the universal default. The name is a quite non-descriptive, why not call it roads? Or driving? - CyclOSM -- Why not call it cycle map? This is some internal project name? - Cycle map -- duplicate, why does it need 2? - Transport map -- What kind of transport? Call it "Public Transport". - Tracestrack Topo -- no idea what this means. - OVPNKarte -- again no idea. Looks like another public transport map. Why does it need 2? - Humanitarian -- Here I have really no idea. Is this for disaster relief personnel, so it displays hospitals and such?

aqwsde 3y ago
"ÖPNV" (Öffentlicher PersonenNahVerkehr) is the German abbreviation for "public transport". And "Karte" <-> "map"
usrusr 3y ago
OSM presentation configurations are a bit like Linux distributions (only much, much smaller): yes, having more than one causes a lot of seemingly avoidable mental load, but there is little doubt that the design by committee implied by a single version would be much worse.
- junon 3y ago
  Give people the option to create, import and export their own on the official site, and a means for browsing a catalog of them. You can infer how good they are (and thus their ranking) by how many interactions are made with the map or something, or just use a rating system that can be done anonymously. No design by committee, and no random, unclear layers for the average user.
  - usrusr 3y ago
    The map on osm.org is leaflet based, pre-rendered png tiles. Each theme is a huge global tile pyramid, and because they are osm and not some random osm redistributor they better have those pyramids refreshed quite frequently. No, you don't simply create a "themehub" platform on the side.

holistio 3y ago

Can somebody ELI5 what hierarchical place rendering in China is?

hilbert42 3y ago

To anyone at Mastodon reading this, I cannot read this article without turning JavaScript on! Yes, I've read your message to that effect many times. I can turn on JavaScript but I won't, especially for you Mastodon—because you portray yourselves as an alternative to those services such as Google, Facebook, MS, etc. that use JS for nefarious purposes. If you were truly acting as an alternative and acting in good faith then you wouldn't enforce the large and slow overhead of JavaScript onto users without also offering a JS-free option. Moreover, JS is also a security liability which makes your action even worse. Sure, offer JavaScript to those who prefer to use it, and to those who don't know how to turn it off, but to enforce its use is really a form of discrimination—discrimination against those of us who've been arguing for an alternative to Big Tech for years. The web's been rendered an utter mess because of JavaScript—not because of the language per se—but because of those who've its power to abuse and abuse and disadvantage web users for their own ends—we've now reached the point where many of us find the web almost unusable. Mastodon, you've let the side that's fighting for a better web down. Shame on you!

savingsPossible 3y ago

so, how does one use osm for turn by turn navigation on an android phone? I installed OSMand via f-droid and I did not find it very readable

morbicer 3y ago
OSMand is powerful but the UI can ve overwhelming. Organic maps seem popular https://organicmaps.app/ https://organicmaps.app/ but I prefer the style of Mapy.cz https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cz.seznam.mapy https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cz.seznam.mapy

RicoElectrico 3y ago

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sva_ 3y ago

That's neat. It seems like it isn't available in OsmAnd though, sadly.

bscphil 3y ago
It's odd given that OsmAnd is the most feature complete OSM app for Android that there are so few custom map styles for it. I know the weird format it uses is a contributing factor (I think everyone else uses Mapnik compatible styles). But I find all the included themes really hideous and haven't found a good alternative. There are really good raster styles for outdoor use, so if anyone has advice on adapting an existing theme for OsmAnd I'd be curious to hear about that.
lom 3y ago
OsmAnd already has a way of showing elevation in the same manner
thriftwy 3y ago
OSM is basically a dataset. Everybody renders this dataset differently unless they are sharing a renderer. Android apps such as Maps.ME and OsmAnd do their own vector renders.
- sva_ 3y ago
  I think it might be possible via the Online Maps feature by adding an online source, but for that I'd need the url of the source. For example, I can pick CyclOSM as the map tile source both in OsmAnd and on openstreetmap.org.
  - thriftwy 3y ago
    That would defeat the purpose of having a vector map app.
    - lucb1e 3y ago
      ...and add all the benefits of having online slippy maps, yes, nice way of telling the full story I enable this when I want to zoom to a random place in the world without first downloading a 600MB map file, want satellite imagery, or indeed want to view different styles. I wish there was better integration, like being able to also search worldwide with online services when this view is enabled (but it's also not like I got time to implement that myself so I can understand nobody else has gotten around to yet, either).

KirillPanov 3y ago

To use the Mastodon web application, please enable JavaScript. Alternatively, try one of the native apps for Mastodon for your platform.

wizzwizz4 3y ago
Works for me. Are you using a web browser? While a webapp client is provided for convenience, upon request, this is a social media site, not a website; there is no canonical HTML representation, so don't be surprised when you don't get one. Try specifying Accept: application/ld+json; profile="https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams" in your request.
- lucb1e 3y ago
  I don't think that logic holds: Nitter can render an HTML representation just fine. It's not because it's a "social media site" that there cannot be an HTML+CSS representation. Anyway I don't think disabling javascript wholesale is workable these days, so complaining about that is not very constructive (i.e. I sort of agree with you). Especially for open source products, those people should feel free to contribute or sponsor a non-JS version rather than complaining to volunteers to do a ton of extra work for what I suspect is literally no more than a few dozen people on the globe (particularly with noncommercial software like mastodon which isn't going to be annoying when JS is turned on). I should start complaining that sites don't look nice with CSS disabled :P (Sometimes I turn css off using an extension to avoid the rules that make the text thin+gray on a grayish background.)
  - progval 3y ago
    > those people should feel free to contribute or sponsor a non-JS version It will be rejected. Mastodon used to have a good HTML view with progressive enhancement for logged-out users. But in v4.0 they replaced it with the same React app as the loggin-in users, to lower the maintenance cost.
    - lucb1e 3y ago

shrx 3y ago

For some reason, the Tracestrack Topo layer doesn't load for me in firefox.

kiwijamo 3y ago
Loads for me Firefox/Windows.
- gerdesj 3y ago
  .. and me FF/Linux. Parent might like to examine their extensions/network/life choices. I block a shit load of stuff and bizarrely a mapping system used and generated by millions of people just seems to work. This didn't look very pretty but I still got the menus 8) $ links "https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/50.93675/-2.63421&layers=P"
rstarast 3y ago
Same here, I get 403s from tile.tracestrack.com Edit: I think it's due to referrer filtering. I can load the tiles fine if I pass 'Referer: https://www.openstreetmap.org https://www.openstreetmap.org', but Firefox sends 'Referer: tile.tracestrack.com'. Presumably that's a measure to preserve privacy, possibly due to some extension (though I've disabled various adblock, tracking protection things...)
- matchamatcha 3y ago
  Thanks, changing that setting in uMatrix worked for me.
- lucb1e 3y ago
  What do you use to suppress the referer header? For my job, I needed to know whether to dissuade a customer from using the referrer for CSRF protection. I looked for stats on how many people filter this but could find nothing at all. You're the first person I hear runs this in practice, so maybe I can find usage stats on the software you use. Secondarily, I'd be curious how often you run into trouble!

MaximilianEmel 3y ago

Crosswalks still look the same as sidewalks :(

Freak_NL 3y ago
The layer seems closed source, or at least not developed out in the open, so you can't easily file a bug I think.

GauntletWizard 3y ago

This looks nice, unlike Google's recent decision to completely redo their colors to look like Apple's terrible, faded colors.

aqfamnzc 3y ago
The reason they use such light, poor contrast colors is that the map is used as a background for things like business ads, the blue navigation line, etc. Yes in the process, it becomes useless as an actual map for looking at.
tornato7 3y ago
In my parents' car, the screen doesn't exactly have high dynamic range, and for some reason Google Maps colors are white on white, impossible to tell where the streets are looking at the screen during the day.
- navane 3y ago
  I keep telling this at my Google maps when I use it as satnav in my car. I'm trying to count which right it is, but I don't see the side streets as they are white with a light grey border on off white. Infuriating. Give me my neon green, purple and black.
- wkat4242 3y ago
  That's Google design these days. White on light white on sightly darker white. Apparently it's modern and people have thought about it. I guess those people wear sunglasses all day.
lucb1e 3y ago
These situations are not the same btw. Not sure if you know, but this style was added as an option in the layers menu. You can use whatever style you like!

simonw 3y ago

Nice. Here's a direct link to view San Francisco using Tracestack Topo: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/37.7846/-122.4304&layers=P https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/37.7846/-122.4304&laye...

shpx 3y ago

Islands which are also states say the name of the island twice at certain zoom levels. https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=10/54.2375/-4.6695&layers=P https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=10/54.2375/-4.6695&layers... https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=10/13.9394/-61.0785&layers=P https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=10/13.9394/-61.0785&layer... https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/16.7342/-62.1730&layers=P https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/16.7342/-62.1730&layer... Topography and map don't match up for Fairway Rock https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/65.6235/-168.7505&layers=P https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/65.6235/-168.7505&laye... Some islands are not named at any zoom level https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=8/49.629/-126.381&layers=P https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=8/49.629/-126.381&layers=... https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=8/63.273/-170.184&layers=P https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=8/63.273/-170.184&layers=... https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=8/71.253/-179.604&layers=P https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=8/71.253/-179.604&layers=...

colordrops 3y ago
Are these new problems or pre-existing problems?
- kibwen 3y ago
  You can click the "layers" button on the side to see how it looks in other layers. For the Isle of Man, other layers only show the name once, or don't show it at all at that close of a zoom level.
  - shpx 3y ago
    Actually the standard layer also says "Isle of Man" twice at a certain zoom https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=9/54.1624/-4.5071 https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=9/54.1624/-4.5071
lmm 3y ago
> Islands which are also states say the name of the island twice at certain zoom levels. That seems correct and desirable? They're two distinct things that happen to coincide. Just like a street with a name might also be part (or the entirety) of a numbered route, and we'd want the map to show both.

matheusmoreira 3y ago

It looks awesome!

lucb1e 3y ago

View it on a 3D globe here: https://www.tracestrack.com/#features https://www.tracestrack.com/#features

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DavidKarlas 3y ago

I just wish it displayed buildings at zoom 16(today at 17, while default OSM renderer at 15). And similar for addresses displayed currently at 19, I wish it was at 18, while OSM default renderer displays at 17.