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The sequence of events here was rather interesting. The Globe and Mail got the assassination story, and asked the government for comment. The government asked t
by pseudo0 3y ago
The sequence of events here was rather interesting. The Globe and Mail got the assassination story, and asked the government for comment. The government asked the Globe to hold the story for a week due to security concerns, and the Globe gave them 24 hours. Then Trudeau used that window to get ahead of the story by announcing it himself.
He probably burned some bridges with journalists due to this stunt, and that would also explain the complete lack of evidence.
- neom 3y agoFrom what I've read in multiple news agencies is: Canadian diplomates state they have been working behind the scenes with Brits and the Americans for weeks to try and avoid a full on conflict with India, they opted not to get involved, then Trudeau met with Modi at the G20 and he brushed it off, Globe and Mail just pressed the issue further. Seems like a bit of a cluster f. https://youtu.be/wid6H7fiTgU?si=UTZIIdRSd371cZm9 https://youtu.be/wid6H7fiTgU?si=UTZIIdRSd371cZm9 https://youtu.be/1OWPVqZWK9g?si=ypJ3jX57sKbPIqSb https://youtu.be/1OWPVqZWK9g?si=ypJ3jX57sKbPIqSb
- rg111 3y ago[flagged]
- bananapub 3y agowhat on earth? your theory is that the only reason that the PM of Canada is annoyed about a notionally allied country murdering someone*, in Canada, is because of parliamentary politics?
- bananapub 3y agothe replies I got to this are the dumbest things I've ever seen on this website, including all the crypto- and NFT-idiots that have swarmed us over the last few years, jfc
- unmole 3y agoNo, the theory is that the PM of Canada recognises the electoral benefits of pandering to Khalistani extremists.
- kderbyma 3y agowelcome to Canada. That's how it is here. Politics is corrupt in every country. The political class is not equal before the law regardless of their claims.
- rewmie 3y ago> No, the theory is that the PM of Canada recognises the electoral benefits of pandering to Khalistani extremists. I've read that nonsense, along with more imaginative firehose of falsehood bulshit, on Reddit posts brigaded by accounts hellbent on attacking Canada in general and Trudeau in particular. But it really doesn't hold any water, does it? I mean, think about it for a second. The entire Sikh population of Canada barely accounts for 2% of it's whole population. Let's assume each and every Sikh is of voting age, is a voter, and never voted for Trudeau in their entire life. Let's also entertain the thought that a Canadian government decrying political assassinations in their land by agents of a foreign country is something that would otherwise be unthinkable, and that the government of a western nation would need to want to go way out of their way to object to that. Would a potential 2% bump in the polls justify all the noise? Please think about this.
- unmole 3y agoPeople of Jewish heritage constitute about ~2.4% of the US population. And as we know, they have zero influence on American foreign policy. /s A non-flippant response: https://theprint.in/theprint-essential/sikhs-so-powerful-in-canada-its-not-about-numbers/314036/ https://theprint.in/theprint-essential/sikhs-so-powerful-in-...
- pratikss 3y agoThat's exactly how parliamentary politics work. NDP that has 25 seats in parliament can revoke their support and Trudeau stops being a prime minister.
- theironhammer 3y agoDidn't the comment say "mainly" not "only"?
- yakubin 3y agoSo far he seems to be annoyed based on suspicions, but without evidence. His actions seem a bit rash in that situation.
- bparsons 3y agoTrudeau derangement syndrome is real. If tomorrow, Trudeau came out in favor of breathing oxygen, conservatives in this country would choke themselves to own the libs.
- AlexandrB 3y agoIronically this comment is actually an excellent example of "identity politics" (as the term was originally used at least). It ascribes identity-based motives on state actors when other possible explanations exist.
- kaycey2022 3y agoI don't see why UK and US should avoid confrontation with India, if there were solid evidence to back up these claims. After all the entire western world is up in arms over similar cavalier behaviour exhibited by Russia and China. There is literally no reason to pull back from China when India shows similar tendencies. I'm betting the evidence, if there is any, is just hearsay BS.
- pradn 3y agoThe UK has been trying to be closer to India to have something to show for having exited Brexit - closer trade ties would be a victory. This is with elections for the Tories looming, and with an Indian-origin PM, uniquely positioned to strengthen ties. The US is courting India as part of an anti-China bulwark, along with those in South East Asia (Vietnam w/ the elevation of the US to the highest bilateral status during a Biden visit; the Phillipines with close military co-operation, including Taiwan invasion drills.) Biden also met the C5+1 nations in Central Asia, and that's part of both pushing against Russia and China. In this environment, these two countries don't want to needlessly antagonize India.
- maximilianburke 3y agoLack of publicly revealed evidence does not mean a lack of evidence.
- pseudo0 3y agoSure, there might be evidence that they are refusing to release, but Trudeau made the accusation publicly. By turning this into a public diplomatic spat, he now needs to show the proof.
- b59831 3y ago[dead]
- belltaco 3y agoMaybe they already lost the evidence because of routine deletion like it happened with the downing of Air India Flight 182 that killed 320 people and the alleged Canadian perpetuators were let go. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37601284 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37601284 The guy murdered was associated with one of the alleged perpetuators later on according to Canadian court records.
- whatever1 3y agoSo Modi can send his goons in foreign soil to bring justice. I don’t understand this line of thought.
- belltaco 3y agoI never said that or think so. Please don't accuse me of things I didn't say or think.
- whatever1 3y agoYou have several identical comments pointing to the same incident trying to build the case that implicates Canada in a terrorist attack. If not to justify the murder then what are you trying to achieve?
- alephnerd 3y agoThe Globe and Mail leans Conservative. It's basically Canada's WSJ. I'm kind of curious whether it was the Cons who leaked it or someone in the CSIS (some analyst did the same thing a couple months back about an ongoing investigation into Chinese interference) It just doesn't seem like something Trudeau's Cabinet would want to leak, as you win 100% of the controversies you never participate in.
- blast 3y agoI have the opposite impression of G&M's leanings, in fact I'm surprised to hear anyone say that.
- alephnerd 3y agoIt's not as bad as the National Post, but the Opinions Pieces they host have a distinct PC (Progressive Conservative) tinge to it, and they have had a history of endorsing the Conservatives. This can be seen as well in their endorsements within Ontario (which is basically the only part of Anglophone Canada that matters tbh)
- blast 3y agoGood to know. I'm surprised. Thanks.
- waffleiron 3y agoWikipedia seems to agree with the poster you replied to, that it leans moderately conservative.
- VancouverMan 3y agoKeep in mind that the "left" vs "right" determination is somewhat skewed within the Canadian political landscape. Among the major federal parties in Canada, none of them offer or propose policies that could be considered "right wing" in any meaningful way. Policy-wise, the Conservative Party should objectively be considered a "left-of-centre" party. They embrace socialism and big government, and they support high immigration rates, for example. Such stances are inherently antithetical to "right wing" ideologies. The Conservative Party only appears to be "right wing" because they aren't as far "left" as the Bloc Québécois or Liberal Party are, which aren't as far "left" as the NDP or Green Party are. The PPC is perhaps the most "right wing" of the mainstream parties, but platform-wise, it's still quite centrist in pretty much all respects. Essentially all mainstream media in Canada should be considered "left wing", including those that tend to be somewhat supportive of the Conservative Party.
- momirlan 3y agohe also showed again his true colours, and they are not looking good.