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Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts on the assassination of a BC Sikh leader
- eureka-belief 3y agoIndia’s government is apparently confidently enough in India’s global influence to be putting pressure on Canada and Facebook. Just thinking out loud, if some parts of India started breaking away from India, that could start a chain reaction. India has incredibly diverse sets of citizens, each with their own set of cultural identities and historical grievances. Maintaining national unity has been a struggle since India become its own country. And it’s two enemies to the north would love to see India divided. Violent suppression of separatists is apparently a necessity evil for them.
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago> suppression of separatists If true, this was a stupid move. They’ve martyred a separatist while bringing him and his cause international sympathy and attention. The assassins have carried out an action resembling an attack on a founding member of NATO and close ally of America’s. In North America. This is a line even the Soviets and Chinese respected. Not out of fear, but rational self interest. If true, New Delhi’s best move is to find the perpetrators and make an example out of them. (My guess is a security element went rogue and the diplomats were too incompetent to keep it quiet.)
- shrikant 3y ago> This is a line even the Soviets and Chinese respected. Well, Russia is pretty fine with carrying out extra-judicial assassination attempts of undesirables on UK soil, so it's not clear this line is true any more.
- ksenzee 3y agoThe “in North America” bit matters. This took place a couple hours’ drive north of Seattle.
- thuridas 3y agoAnd Russia is paying for it in weapons from UK to Ukraine. Also remember the killing in Turk soil by Saudi Arabia
- gruez 3y ago> And Russia is paying for it in weapons from UK to Ukraine. By all accounts that was caused by the Ukraine invasion rather than the assassination. >Also remember the killing in Turk soil by Saudi Arabia What end up happening to them? Seems like they got off pretty light. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamal_Khashoggi#U.S._response https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamal_Khashoggi#U.S._response
- gretch 3y ago> By all accounts that was caused by the Ukraine invasion rather than the assassination. It's not either/or, it's both. The counter example is USA (I'm american). USA had such a "good guy" track record post WWII that we invaded numerous countries and fucked around all over the world and we didn't get coalition'ed against.
- foota 3y agoSomehow this connection never crossed my mind between the UKs gun-hoeness and the assassination.
- lainga 3y ago> This is a line even the Soviets and Chinese respected Partly because they were on the other side. It's different here (if true) because, as the BBC points out - "Western powers would have to make a choice between backing Ottawa or New Delhi, a choice between supporting the principle of the rule of law or the hard necessity of realpolitik." https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66856568 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66856568
- senkora 3y agoIndia isn’t really an ally of the west. For example, it was historically non-aligned but on friendly terms with the Soviet Union: > In 1954, the United States made Pakistan a Central Treaty Organization (CENTO) ally. As a result, India cultivated strategic and military relations with the Soviet Union to counter Pakistan–United States relations.[2] In 1961, India became a founding member of the Non-Aligned Movement to abstain from aligning with either the US or the USSR in the Cold War. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/India–United_States_relations https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/India–United_States_relation... Pakistan is/was a closer and more reliable ally for the United States. For another example where India disregarded the interests of the west: > In 1970, Indira Gandhi enacted legislation which barred medical products from being patented in the country. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmaceutical_industry_in_India https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmaceutical_industry_in_I... Of course, India would seem to be a natural ally given that both countries are committed democracies and there is massive immigration from India to the United States, but in practice the United States likes the reliability of less-democratic states and India likes to control its own affairs and is powerful enough to do so. So it goes.
- eureka-belief 3y agoTrue that India isn’t strictly an ally of the west. And even now India is importing oil from Russia. Though, I’d say much of these differences with the west are not ideological as much as the result of India applying realpolitik to their geographic circumstances. And after being screwed by the British for centuries, India doesn’t feel like owes any favors to the west. If India were located in Europe, without needing to deal with Pakistan and China, I think they’d have a lot in common with other European nations. I know that’s a bold claim. At least on paper, Indias government was formed based on principle of equality and self-determination. Obviously, populism and corruption have caused the government to veer slightly off course, but India is nothing like countries like Russia or China, at least.
- zxienin 3y ago> The assassins have carried out an action resembling an attack on a founding member of NATO and close ally of America’s. In North America. Even assuming it is sanctioned killing, how would that be an attack on Canada?
- seszett 3y agoKilling a Canadian citizen on Canadian soil seems like an obvious attack on Canada, I don't think there's any question on this.
- tredre3 3y ago> In North America. This is a line even the Soviets and Chinese respected When it comes to assassination, maybe. But China conducts extra-judicial operations in Canada, and even deport citizens (send back to China), with little respect for Canada's sovereignty. * Search for china+secret+police+canada and make your own mind. Obviously the CCP denies it and the Canadian government is mute. So you only have the mainstream media's word to go on.
- UberFly 3y agoThey have these "global police" units in the US too to go after political expatriates and god knows what else.
- kasey_junk 3y agoAt least in the US the Chinese government is letting their (supposed) agents dangle for doing this: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-are-chinas-alleged-secret-overseas-police-stations https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-are-chinas-allege... So there are 2 differences here: - targeting their own citizens rather than the host nations - not killing them Those are pretty big differences for international relations purposes.
- __loam 3y ago> This is a line even the Soviets The Soviets regularly murdered dissidents from the Soviet Union in western countries. That's like half the reason the KGB existed. You can read about it in The Sword and the Shield by Christopher Andrew and Vasili Mitrokhin, a book directly referencing KGB archives.
- kasey_junk 3y agoThe Sword and the Shield is _great_. It's been a long time since I read it but I don't remember it outlining murdering western citizens who were just dissidents. I do remember a few plots to kill KGB defectors. The more interesting part of that book about assassinations were how many foreign leaders (including nominal allies) they contemplated killing and how close they got to some of them.
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago> Soviets regularly murdered dissidents from the Soviet Union in western countries American citizens in North America?
- __loam 3y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitrokhin_Archive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitrokhin_Archive They did a lot of shit in North America but one of the points of Sword and Shield was explaining how assassinations were mainly directed towards ex-Soviet dissidents and not American citizens. I'm not excusing what the Indian Government did here, I'm just saying that the Soviets (and the United States for that matter) regularly performed actions on this level in a number of western countries.
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago> the Soviets (and the United States for that matter) regularly performed actions on this level in a number of western countries Sure. But America didn’t assassinate Russians in Russia. And the Soviets reciprocated. This is a bright line that someone stupidly crossed. Rogue elements happen. That New Delhi appears blindsided is the concerning bit.
- OfSanguineFire 3y ago> If true, this was a stupid move. They’ve martyred a separatist while bringing him and his cause international sympathy and attention. The heyday of the Khalistan movement was decades ago. It has petered out and lingers only at a minor, ineffectual level similar to how left-wing militants or Basque separatist violence still simmered for a while in Europe but achieved nothing. Plus, Western audiences are still poorly informed about ethnic and sectarian differences within India, there’s nothing here easy for them to grab on to. I wouldn’t expect this event to bring any new impetus to the Sikh separatist cause.
- eynsham 3y ago> necessity[sic] evil The Khalistani movement is pretty weak, and as Pakistan shows, repression is counterproductive in that it is makes ethnic identity more salient not less. (At least in the Kashmiri case there is already a substantial terrorist movement that can’t be ignored; the Khalistan movement is a joke and certainly can be. Turnout in the last Assembly elections was ⩾70 per cent.) Even the Akali Dal was in alliance with the BJP. (See e.g. Jaffrelot's The Pakistan Paradox for an account of the radicalisation of Bengali, Muhajir, and Sindhi nationalists, inter alios.)
- nik282000 3y agoIndia has 25x the population of Canada, Facebook has no reason to side with Canada over any political dispute. More so after the stupidity of demanding that Facebook pay Bell for linking to 'Bell's' content.
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago> India has 25x the population of Canada, Facebook has no reason to side with Canada To be super clear, if India actually assassinated a Canadian in Canada, this becomes relevant in America and Europe. (At best it means New Delhi has a rogue security element.) This is not an editorial decision by Facebook. It’s the mindless implementation of complex policies.
- cperciva 3y agoEdited to remove misinformation. Sorry, I was misled by news articles about the individual's status in Canada which were published prior to the announcement earlier today that he became a citizen in 2015.
- willsmith72 3y agoDo you have a source for that? The reports I've read suggested he was a Canadian citizen, despite having his immigration applications rejected in the 90s.
- nosecreek 3y agoHe was a Canadian citizen: https://globalnews.ca/news/9969537/who-is-hardeep-singh-nijjar/ https://globalnews.ca/news/9969537/who-is-hardeep-singh-nijj...
- johnyzee 3y agoWhat? He was a Canadian. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardeep_Singh_Nijjar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardeep_Singh_Nijjar
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- shrubble 3y agoFacebook needs to just die at this point.
- martin1975 3y agoThat's why I'm on Gab.
- umeshunni 3y agoSo should terrorists
- kypro 3y agoIt's not Facebook's fault, they're just following the law. The issue, if anything, is that in Canada you don't have the legal right to freely express yourself online and Facebook is legally allowed to censor your content. So obviously Facebook are going to have no problem with doing that if the Indian government are telling them to. The mistake of allowing private companies to have the right censor legal content (for whatever reason) is the mistake here. Imo there's little difference in what Facebook is doing here with what they did when they removed Jan 6th posts. Hardeep Singh Nijjar was trying using his political influence to overthrow the Indian government by supporting extremist groups within India. Obviously unless you pass laws to protect freedom of speech Facebook isn't going to allow posts supporting this kind of behaviour on their platform – even if in this case a lot of people in the West agree with the extremists. I'll also note that we don't even know if Hardeep Singh Nijjar was assassinated yet. This for the time being ranges from likely to a conspiracy theory depending on which governments and media sources you trust.
- dblohm7 3y agoPlay stupid games (Canadian government bill C-18 [1]), win stupid prizes. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_News_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_News_Act
- psnehanshu 3y agoI heard that here https://youtu.be/1kJf4krMY4A?si=7vNSBNrU8f-rqJBp https://youtu.be/1kJf4krMY4A?si=7vNSBNrU8f-rqJBp
- kmeisthax 3y agoThis isn't C-18, this is way worse. The context is that there's a Canadian Sikh who has been calling for parts of India to secede from India. In response, India had him assassinated. India has laws on the books that allow them to remove content globally for things that violate Indian law. They enforce this on social media companies by requiring them to have employees on the country's soil in order to take them hostage. C-18 just says you can't post links on Facebook without news companies getting a cut of ad revenue. India wants all discussion of their assassination of a Canadian citizen to be censored, and they're currently getting that censorship.
- ta8645 3y ago> In response, India had him assassinated. Why do people keep saying this like it's a fact? Often it's the same people claiming that the murdered victim in Canada should be presumed innocent of the accusations levelled at him. In both cases, we should approach the accusations with skepticism.
- eynsham 3y agoIndian nationalist circles close to the government have been claiming credit on behalf of RAW for some time (e.g., https://tfipost.com/2023/06/raw-will-never-confirm-but-hardeep-singh-nijjar-looks-like-a-raw-hit/ https://tfipost.com/2023/06/raw-will-never-confirm-but-harde...).
- gustavus 3y agoFor those wondering this isn't because of their boneheaded law the official justification is > Your page has been unpublished,” reads a notice sent to BC Sikhs that was reviewed by PressProgress. “This is because BC Sikhs goes against our Community Standards on dangerous individuals and organizations. I for one am so glad that we agreed it was a good idea for social media to censor dangerous people and opinions, especially ones that might spread misinformation. It is a good precedent going forward that I do not think will have any unintended consequences.
- slashdev 3y ago> BC Sikhs goes against our Community Standards on dangerous individuals and organizations. This is hilarious to anyone who knows any Sikhs. They’re some of the most peace loving people on planet earth.
- edgyquant 3y agoWhat a ridiculous generalization. Sikhs are capable of being dangerous just as any other group of people are.
- slashdev 3y agoWhat a ridiculous comment. Are you trying to say all groups are equally dangerous? You know that’s ridiculous right? If you want to say Sikhs are at least as dangerous as the average, I’m open to see a statistical argument to support that position. I don’t think it’s true, but I could be convinced.
- darth_avocado 3y agoPolitics aside, this feels like a good policy question? How do laws apply in the context of a global platform like Facebook. Something may be in violation of a law in one country, but be totally acceptable in another. Should sovereign citizens on one country be subjected to laws of another? If Twitter files showed us anything, posts get taken down at the request of the government (including US and Canada).
- JStanton617 3y agoIndia (among other countries) have passed so called "hostage-taking laws" that require large social media companies to have in-country employees that can be strong-armed from ways small to large (threats of being convicted of treason and executed). This is a specific policy to allow them to enforce their censorship laws in other countries.
- Zak 3y agoDo they have options to enforce that other than blocking access to the service in question?
- zie 3y agoIf there is a single Facebook employee on Indian soil, that Facebook cares about, then obviously, yes they can enforce it, simply by being mean to those Facebook employee(s). It seems like India's stance is: If you want to do business in India, you have to have employees you care about on our soil, so we can be mean to them if you do something we don't like. Facebook's stance appears to be: We like your money enough that we will comply with this. I'm just glad I'm not one of those Facebook employees.
- tamimio 3y ago> I'm just glad I'm not one of those Facebook employees. Nor a facebook user.
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- Cameri 3y agoShouldn’t have pushed Bill C-18 then
- UseStrict 3y agoIf you took 10 seconds to read, it's not at all C-18 related. It's entirely related to India being able to strong-arm Facebook to comply.
- happytiger 3y agoYou let them have total media control and censorship and then act surprised when they use it. Canadians, time for change!
- root_axis 3y agoWhat do you mean by "let them have total media control"?
- happytiger 3y agohttps://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/c11-is-now-law-and-the-internet-is-under-government-control https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/c11-is-now-law-and... I do understand how this related only in a tertiary way. However, the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission is a hot mess and Canada is headed towards total media control.
- zht 3y agoBrian Lilley, for some context, often writes incendiary posts for Toronto Sun, a tabloid with notoriously low journalistic standards. He himself, who often writes glowing articles about the current provincial government, seems to frequently be privy to otherwise unknown/unreleased details from our provincial government. He is coincidentally in a long term relationship with Ivana Yelich, who works in the current Premier’s office as “ executive director of media relations”
- pharrington 3y agoYou're saying Canadians let Facebook have total media control? The blame lies on Mark Zuckerberg. This is a Mark Zuckerberg (or more generally, unfettered capitalism) problem.
- kmeisthax 3y agoNo, it's an India problem. Insamuch as Facebook or capitalism is even at fault, it's specifically because they're either willing to comply with, or have been duped into complying with, India's attempts at censorship. The fact that BC Sikhs was eventually uncensored would indicate the latter, but India knows that they can try again, because... - Companies like Facebook are big, monopolistic platforms, which mean they have too much content and not enough moderators, so they have a 'shoot first, ask questions later' mentality - India holds some Facebook employees hostage. This is part of their law, you can't run a social media network there without domestic employees, and those employees effectively become agents of India with stiff penalties for noncompliance. The fault Facebook and other capitalists have is not immediately NOPEing out of the Indian market. They left themselves open to being used as a censorship tool by powerful-enough governments.
- n_t 3y agoSince this will soon become heated and full of misinformation, here are some details- 1. PM Trudeau called emergency session over "credible" allegations but no actual evidence. The leader of opposition has also called out lack of evidence. 2. Canada expelled a key Indian diplomat but not nothing more - basically diplomatese - https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/18/americas/canada-hardeep-singh-nijjar-india-intl https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/18/americas/canada-hardeep-s... 3. India issued statement calling allegations as baseless and irresponsible - https://bit.ly/3EHtuwe https://bit.ly/3EHtuwe 4. India too immediately booted out key Canadian diplomat. Diplomat was so angry he almost slammed car door on a journalist (https://x.com/ANI/status/1703997495318352108?s=20 https://x.com/ANI/status/1703997495318352108?s=20) 5. PM Trudeau seems to realize he has worsened relations with no credible evidence - https://www.reuters.com/world/canada-pm-not-trying-provoke-india-want-answers-over-murder-2023-09-19/ https://www.reuters.com/world/canada-pm-not-trying-provoke-i... As for background, India considers two countries as those which harbors terrorists active against India - Pakistan and Canada. Canada has harbored "Khalistani" terrorists (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182) for long. Recently these "khalistani" (mind you, not Sikhs) have started threatening Indian diplomats (https://x.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/1676496624519122950?s=20 https://x.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/1676496624519122950?s=20) and attacked Indian properties and temples in Canada/UK. India recently started taking harder stance on push back on both Canada and UK for safety of it's nationals.
- Sanzig 3y ago> The leader of opposition has also called out lack of evidence. That is not what he said at all: https://nitter.net/PierrePoilievre/status/1703893915328249923#m https://nitter.net/PierrePoilievre/status/170389391532824992...
- papercrane 3y agoHe's since changed his position and is saying Trudeau should release more information publicly. For context Poilievre has refused to get security clearance, so it's unlikely he's seen the whatever evidence CSIS has.+ * https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/poilievre-trudeau-hardeep-singh-nijjar https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/poilievre-trudeau-har... + there's a lot that's been written about his refusal. The short of it is that his position is that part of the process is he needs to promise not to reveal anything he sees and he has said that could interfere with his work as leader of the opposition.
- andreygrehov 3y agoWhich is why I love X - no censorship.
- cududa 3y agoBad news. There’s more censorship since he took over. https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/economy/2023/5/2/twitter-fulfilling-more-government-censorship-requests-under-musk https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/economy/2023/5/2/twitter-fulfi...
- andreygrehov 3y agoSocial media censorship != governments' censorship requests Free speech allows for a diversity of voices, some of which may express views not aligned with the government's perspective, whereas its absence leads to fewer government takedown requests.
- reducesuffering 3y agoDid you miss it when they censored all mentions of Mastodon, banned people who said to follow their Mastodon instead, and throttled links to other websites?
- freedomben 3y agoIn your opinion, is censorship only censorship when done directly by a government?
- andreygrehov 3y agoYes and no. According to the Twitter Files, there was a prevailing amount of indirect censorship requests (majorly driven by democratic representatives - like it or not, this is a fact), meaning non-official government requests to shut a tweet down. This channel is now gone. Period. They no longer have the UI to do it. Prior to Elon's takeover, they had a dedicated tool to submit these kinds of requests. It's gone. Official (e.g., legal) government censorship is still present. It's not going anywhere. Since the non-official channel has been shut down, the official number of government requests has gone up, which is obvious. Overall, the amount of free speech on X has increased. Irrespective of whether you like Elon or not, this is the outcome of his leadership.
- mabbo 3y agoTo those saying "But Bill C-18" - it's not the Canadian government taking things down. It's the Indian government, taking down articles and posts that accuse them of assassinating a Canadian citizen on Canadian soil. C-18 is a problem. We need to deal with it. That's not relevant to the issue at hand. And to those saying "Well he was a terrorist..." we, in Canada, have something called the Rule of Law. You have to prove someone is guilty, in court, with real evidence. They serve time in prison for their crimes. They can be extradited to other countries to face court there. If Bhai Hardeep Singh Nijjar was a terrorist, and there was sufficient evidence to convict him, the Indian government should have brought it to the Canadian Government. It's very simple really. Murdering someone without trial because you don't like their political speech- why, I think there's a word for that.
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- screye 3y ago> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182 The Khalistani perpetrators of the worst terrorist act on Canadian soil, second only to 9/11 in deaths, walked free. I can't comment on Canada's justice system broadly. But when it comes to holding terrorists accountable, Canada's track record is a joke.
- ipnon 3y agoMr. Nijjar was not involved; he was 8 years old when this happened.
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- Sanzig 3y agoThat's an impressive level of false equivalency. Nobody has ever suggested that Nijjar had anything to do with Air India 182 - probably because he was seven years old at the time, and I'm pretty sure seven year olds aren't masterminding airline bombings. Yet you went straight for that implication: > But, if you have the dubious honor of master-minding the Canadian 9/11, then that puts you squarely in terrorist camp for me. If India had evidence implicating Nijjar in terrorist activities, they should have requested extradition.
- umeshunni 3y agoCalling Nijjar a Sikh leader is like calling Bin Laden an Islamic leader.
- elashri 3y agoBin Laden openly admitted his actions (in proud propaganda). I would like the same level of evidence about Nijjar that can warrant this analogy/comparison . Can you provide this evidence?
- givemeethekeys 3y agoTrudeau has has been having a terrible time with India. How fortuitous then, that a man, wanted as a terrorist in India who also happens to be Canadian citizen ends up dead, soon after these mishaps: - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-09-10/trudeau-is-stuck-in-india-with-faulty-aircraft-after-hearing-criticism-from-modi https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-09-10/trudeau-i... - https://www.fijitimes.com/modi-scolds-trudeau-over-sikh-protests-in-canada-against-india-2/ https://www.fijitimes.com/modi-scolds-trudeau-over-sikh-prot... With some luck, the people of Canada will completely forget what a tool Trudeau has been when it comes to foreign policy, rally behind him in the defense of the country against that big bad bully India and give him a majority in the next election.
- eynsham 3y agoIt's a bit naïve to think that the Canadian public will respond to this in the same way that the Indian nationalist press respond to 56 inches' chest-thumping. People can vote Poilievre and oppose extrajudicial assassinations by foreign intelligence agencies.
- givemeethekeys 3y agoHere's what naive means: Lacking worldly experience and understanding, especially. Simple and guileless; artless. Unsuspecting or credulous. I assure you that the Canadian public is fully capable of responding to this in a far more favorable way than almost any press, including the "Indian nationalist" press. As an example, they keep voting Trudeau back into office.
- eynsham 3y ago> in the same way Again, whatever their many faults, Canadians are capable of opposing extrajudicial assassinations and voting Poilievre (or Singh). Meanwhile, the Indian press lap up 56 inches' supposedly patriotic nonsense whilst he cedes land to the PRC.
- VancouverMan 3y ago> As an example, they keep voting Trudeau back into office. That's more just an accident due to how Canada's electoral system happens to behave. During the 2019 federal election, the Liberal Party received 33.12% of the votes, and got 157 seats in the House of Commons. The Conservative Party had more votes at 34.34%, but only got 121 seats. A similar thing happened in 2021. The Liberal Party received 32.62% of the votes, and got 160 seats. The Conservative Party again had more votes at 33.74%, but only got 119 seats. Even his 2015 majority government only received 39.47% of the vote. 1984 is the last time I can think of when a majority government in Canada actually received over 50% of the vote, and even then it was only 50.03%. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Canadian_federal_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Canadian_federal_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Canadian_federal_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Canadian_federal_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Canadian_federal_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Canadian_federal_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_Canadian_federal_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_Canadian_federal_election
- EMCymatics 3y agoYeah, free speech doesnt exist on the internet.
- inSenCite 3y agoTrudeau obviously grasping at the chance of winning over some Sikh votes. Whether the allegations are credible or not is irrelevant to him, and likely will not be found out until after elections anyway. On the other hand, Facebook is much more likely to err on the side of India given the much larger population and associated $ potential and THE BILL. Canada is not exactly an espionage expert relative to places like India so I find it highly unlikely that we (Canada) will be able to figure this out in the short term without external help.
- vharuck 3y agoThe Canadian government worked with US intelligence on this matter: https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canada-worked-closely-with-us-indias-possible-link-killing-source-2023-09-19/ https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canada-worked-closely...
- fzil 3y agoSikhs make up <2% of Canada. Even less when you account for that fact that not all of them are of age to vote. Do you really think a PM of Canada would throw away relationship with a potentially large trading partner for a few thousand votes?
- dbsights 3y agoAre you Canadian? Even asking the question feels ridiculous: yes, absolutely. He shredded the Charter to fabricate a wedge (interior vaccine passports, firing civil servants) to win a few votes in the last election. This is absolutely in character.. good governance means nothing to Trudeau compared to being re-elected.
- VancouverMan 3y agoThere could be more to it than just acquiring future votes for the Liberal Party. Keep in mind that Jagmeet Singh is the leader of the NDP, the other main leftist party in Canada, and he represents the Burnaby South riding. Due to how Canada's elections work, the Liberals drawing even a relatively small number of voters away from the NDP in key ridings could have a significant negative impact on the NDP's and Singh's level of success during the next election. In 2021, Singh beat the Liberal candidate by only about 4,000 votes, for example. That was only 10% of the vote, and the overall turnout was merely 51% in that riding.
- Yizahi 3y agoUkrainians posting about war crimes and uploading photos of war - "oh, we don't want to see such sensitive content, it is unsettling, better block it, delete it and ban users with hundreds of thousands subs, just not to see it". A. Few. Moments. Later... "why is Facebook blocking my posts?!"
- shmde 3y agoHe was as much as a "leader" as Osama Bin Laden was a "leader" for Al-Qaeda. The group the "terrorist" belonged to committed the world's deadliest act of aviation terrorism until the September 11 attacks in 2001. They were responsible for assasinating Indias Prime Minister Indira Gandhi. Feels weird reading the western world feeling sympathetic for a group which commits acts of terrorism.
- tamimio 3y agoAfter all the fiasco about Facebook, kind of shocking how and why people are still using it.. the worst kind of social media.
- flerovium 3y agoThe real story is India forcing its censorship regime on Canada by threatening employees in India. Facebook should leave India or be forced by Canada and Europe not to cooperate with Indian demands. Otherwise, the EU is letting India censor its own citizens.
- deanCommie 3y agoA couple weeks ago everyone here claimed Facebook were the good guys for Standing Up To The Canadian Government. Uh huh.