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There’s an important column missing in the table: ownership. Both Bun and Deno are made by companies with heavy VC investment. Node is not. Don’t want to state

There’s an important column missing in the table: ownership. Both Bun and Deno are made by companies with heavy VC investment. Node is not. Don’t want to state the obvious but those VCs want to see a return on their investment and that makes me very hesitant to invest in Bun or Deno, especially at this early stage. Don’t know if it’s coincidence or if the competition has lit a fire under the Node project but it’s recently been adding some great stuff like a built in test runner and watch mode. I’m optimistic.

birkskyum 3y ago
That is true. Both deno and bun runtimes are released under MIT license, and might potentially outlive the companies behind them.
- exabyte 3y ago
  So this is a good thing with regards to your parent comment? I.e., should we feel safe using Bun despite heavy VC investment?
  - birkskyum 3y ago
    It depends on the project how conservative you have to be, and what to emphasize. Generally, this company is very fast moving, so waiting some months could make it significantly easier to gauge if it's a good fit.
- Rapzid 3y ago
  There are a relative handful of people willing and able to work on these projects. Lots of OSS software just gets abandoned when their corporate sponsors stop developing them; like Chakra Core and a bunch of Mozilla projects.
yieldcrv 3y ago
My positive experience with NextJS by VC backed Vercel ($2.5bn valuation) makes me not skeptical of a package by mere nature of it being maintained and marketed by a for profit company with heavy VC investment. Its all about how it integrates and how it avoids vendor lock in.
- Xantier 3y ago
  I feel differently about next.js after their latest shenanigans. Their end goal clearly seems to be vendor lock-in to the Vercel/next.js platform, whichever way it ends up happening. The current attempt looks to be to tweak and assert control over the React library, to make it Vercelified.
  - yieldcrv 3y ago
    you mean like with the app folder? so far because I can still deploy out the box in other places its flying under my radar and its just convenient that vercel is easy to be a place of simple free deployment, for now when they pull a Heroku I’m gone.
Hexagon56k 3y ago
Fixed!

birkskyum 3y ago

That is true. Both deno and bun runtimes are released under MIT license, and might potentially outlive the companies behind them.

exabyte 3y ago
So this is a good thing with regards to your parent comment? I.e., should we feel safe using Bun despite heavy VC investment?
- birkskyum 3y ago
  It depends on the project how conservative you have to be, and what to emphasize. Generally, this company is very fast moving, so waiting some months could make it significantly easier to gauge if it's a good fit.
Rapzid 3y ago
There are a relative handful of people willing and able to work on these projects. Lots of OSS software just gets abandoned when their corporate sponsors stop developing them; like Chakra Core and a bunch of Mozilla projects.

yieldcrv 3y ago

My positive experience with NextJS by VC backed Vercel ($2.5bn valuation) makes me not skeptical of a package by mere nature of it being maintained and marketed by a for profit company with heavy VC investment. Its all about how it integrates and how it avoids vendor lock in.

Xantier 3y ago
I feel differently about next.js after their latest shenanigans. Their end goal clearly seems to be vendor lock-in to the Vercel/next.js platform, whichever way it ends up happening. The current attempt looks to be to tweak and assert control over the React library, to make it Vercelified.
- yieldcrv 3y ago
  you mean like with the app folder? so far because I can still deploy out the box in other places its flying under my radar and its just convenient that vercel is easy to be a place of simple free deployment, for now when they pull a Heroku I’m gone.

Hexagon56k 3y ago

Fixed!