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I uninstalled chrome & switched to Brave (I know about core) when I couldn't disable chrome auto update. I have firefox too.

by oldnet 3y ago

notoverthere 3y ago
> (I know about core) What is core?
matwood 3y ago
I used Brave for awhile, but it got too crypto which made it feel scammy.
- travoc 3y ago
  At least the crypto ads are really easy to turn off.
- pluijzer 3y ago
  Brave gives me a strong negative gut reaction. I really doubt crypto goes well with ethics. Looking at some of Brave's past transgressions confirms it for me. Sure, you can turn it off, just like you can remove the pineapple from pizza, the pizza is still ruined though.
  - denton-scratch 3y ago
    > Sure, you can turn it off, just like you can remove the pineapple from pizza, the pizza is still ruined though. I like this analogy; pineapple on pizza is just like a browser that runs a crypto miner.
    - NayamAmarshe 3y ago
      > runs a crypto miner No it doesn't.
  - NayamAmarshe 3y ago
    You don't need to turn it off, because it's off by default.
- NayamAmarshe 3y ago
  It seems like they're not really betting as big on crypto anymore and slowly moving towards the AI space more.
- StevePerkins 3y ago
  I just don't understand this take. In every Chrome gripefest thread, there will be a comment about switching to Firefox that's at or near the top, and then a comment about Brave closer to the bottom. With half the replies to that comment being about crypto, or even smaller niche players like Vivaldi that are closed-source and don't even have an iOS version. Look, I'm not into crypto. But it takes me about two clicks to turn off everything crypto-related in Brave (the main stuff that people complain about is opt-in and turned off by default anyway). The same amount of effort that it takes me to change Google as the default search engine in Firefox. In both cases, those default settings are there because both browsers need SOME source of revenue. But in Brave's case, at least they are diversifying into different sources, such as a search engine and a Zoom-like video conferencing product. Whereas Firefox's entire existence is dependent on the Google dependency. Nothing against Firefox. But I get far fewer (if any) website compatibility issues with Brave, the extension ecosystem is far better, and the ad-blocking is far superior (with Firefox I see YouTube ads on my phone with every ad-blocking extension I've tried, whereas with Brave I see no ads with the built-in blocker). It just blows my mind that Brave gets dismissed by the HN crowd, on the basis of "crypto associations give me bad vibes", while Firefox's association with Google is completely hand-waved away. When my goal is to avoid Google, I get more bad vibes from Google. But that's just me.
  - esskay 3y ago
    > I just don't understand this take. Fairly easy to understand, for many Crypto is synonymous with 'bad actor'. Which isn't exactly without merit given the number of schemes, scams and outright law breaking elements that have surrounded the topic. It doesn't matter if its legitimate, people will still understandably have issues with it.
  - freedomben 3y ago
    It's a reflexive guilt-by-association instinct that many people have. Some people have used crypto in the past unethically, therefore everyone using crypto is unethical. I usually like to illustrate the problem with this fallacy by using it in a way that nearly everybody can quickly see: "do you have a dog? Hitler had a dog."
jadbox 3y ago
I'd like that Vivaldi is also a great option, and the company is a legitimate employee owned cooperative. https://vivaldi.com/blog/news/alert-no-google-topics-in-vivaldi/ https://vivaldi.com/blog/news/alert-no-google-topics-in-viva...
- NayamAmarshe 3y ago
  Vivaldi is closed source, even worse than Chrome in privacy features: https://privacytests.org https://privacytests.org Brave is objectively the best mainstream privacy browser.
  - noirscape 3y ago
    That site is ran by a Brave employee[0]. The author claims that there's no COI, but one ought to be suspicious if Brave passes almost every single test barring the ones that no browser can pass. [0]: https://github.com/privacytests/privacytests.org/issues/166 https://github.com/privacytests/privacytests.org/issues/166
    - polygamous_bat 3y ago
      Seems par for the course for a browser which came into existence to peddle crypto magic beans, tbh.
    - NayamAmarshe 3y ago
      His employment status does not change anything. The tests and the page were the same before he joined Brave. The tests are open source, objectively verifiable. Author's employment status is being just used as an excuse to refute objective information imo.
seaman1921 3y ago
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I uninstalled chrome & switched to Brave (I know about core) when I couldn't disable chrome auto update. I have firefox too.

by oldnet 3y ago

I uninstalled chrome & switched to Brave (I know about core) when I couldn't disable chrome auto update. I have firefox too.

notoverthere 3y ago

> (I know about core) What is core?

matwood 3y ago

I used Brave for awhile, but it got too crypto which made it feel scammy.

travoc 3y ago
At least the crypto ads are really easy to turn off.
pluijzer 3y ago
Brave gives me a strong negative gut reaction. I really doubt crypto goes well with ethics. Looking at some of Brave's past transgressions confirms it for me. Sure, you can turn it off, just like you can remove the pineapple from pizza, the pizza is still ruined though.
- denton-scratch 3y ago
  > Sure, you can turn it off, just like you can remove the pineapple from pizza, the pizza is still ruined though. I like this analogy; pineapple on pizza is just like a browser that runs a crypto miner.
  - NayamAmarshe 3y ago
    > runs a crypto miner No it doesn't.
- NayamAmarshe 3y ago
  You don't need to turn it off, because it's off by default.
NayamAmarshe 3y ago
It seems like they're not really betting as big on crypto anymore and slowly moving towards the AI space more.
StevePerkins 3y ago
I just don't understand this take. In every Chrome gripefest thread, there will be a comment about switching to Firefox that's at or near the top, and then a comment about Brave closer to the bottom. With half the replies to that comment being about crypto, or even smaller niche players like Vivaldi that are closed-source and don't even have an iOS version. Look, I'm not into crypto. But it takes me about two clicks to turn off everything crypto-related in Brave (the main stuff that people complain about is opt-in and turned off by default anyway). The same amount of effort that it takes me to change Google as the default search engine in Firefox. In both cases, those default settings are there because both browsers need SOME source of revenue. But in Brave's case, at least they are diversifying into different sources, such as a search engine and a Zoom-like video conferencing product. Whereas Firefox's entire existence is dependent on the Google dependency. Nothing against Firefox. But I get far fewer (if any) website compatibility issues with Brave, the extension ecosystem is far better, and the ad-blocking is far superior (with Firefox I see YouTube ads on my phone with every ad-blocking extension I've tried, whereas with Brave I see no ads with the built-in blocker). It just blows my mind that Brave gets dismissed by the HN crowd, on the basis of "crypto associations give me bad vibes", while Firefox's association with Google is completely hand-waved away. When my goal is to avoid Google, I get more bad vibes from Google. But that's just me.
- esskay 3y ago
  > I just don't understand this take. Fairly easy to understand, for many Crypto is synonymous with 'bad actor'. Which isn't exactly without merit given the number of schemes, scams and outright law breaking elements that have surrounded the topic. It doesn't matter if its legitimate, people will still understandably have issues with it.
- freedomben 3y ago
  It's a reflexive guilt-by-association instinct that many people have. Some people have used crypto in the past unethically, therefore everyone using crypto is unethical. I usually like to illustrate the problem with this fallacy by using it in a way that nearly everybody can quickly see: "do you have a dog? Hitler had a dog."

jadbox 3y ago

I'd like that Vivaldi is also a great option, and the company is a legitimate employee owned cooperative. https://vivaldi.com/blog/news/alert-no-google-topics-in-vivaldi/ https://vivaldi.com/blog/news/alert-no-google-topics-in-viva...

NayamAmarshe 3y ago
Vivaldi is closed source, even worse than Chrome in privacy features: https://privacytests.org https://privacytests.org Brave is objectively the best mainstream privacy browser.
- noirscape 3y ago
  That site is ran by a Brave employee[0]. The author claims that there's no COI, but one ought to be suspicious if Brave passes almost every single test barring the ones that no browser can pass. [0]: https://github.com/privacytests/privacytests.org/issues/166 https://github.com/privacytests/privacytests.org/issues/166
  - polygamous_bat 3y ago
    Seems par for the course for a browser which came into existence to peddle crypto magic beans, tbh.
  - NayamAmarshe 3y ago
    His employment status does not change anything. The tests and the page were the same before he joined Brave. The tests are open source, objectively verifiable. Author's employment status is being just used as an excuse to refute objective information imo.

seaman1921 3y ago