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I've personally noticed that H1B tech workers get paid significantly lower than others. It's a shameful business practice and obviously also really hurts the c
by prng2021 3y ago
I've personally noticed that H1B tech workers get paid significantly lower than others. It's a shameful business practice and obviously also really hurts the competitiveness of non-visa workers.
My guess is that there's no clear market rate for any position. Companies can always say there's a wide range between lowest and highest paid for any given role.
- rrryougi 3y agoA PERM (permanent labor certificate) actually requires prevailing wage for a specific job position at a specific area. Just go check this website: https://flag.dol.gov/programs/prevailingwages https://flag.dol.gov/programs/prevailingwages
- iteria 3y agoMarket rate is based on the national median. So yeah... they do get paid more than the median, but far less than a developer where they work. It's why H1 workers tend to get hired in high paying areas. That's when it's worth it. If they can swing remote, it might be worth it. I've had a California company "lowball" me and I cackled at my amazing raise internally.
- rrryougi 3y agoThat is not true. Prevailing wage also depends on the where you work. https://flag.dol.gov/programs/prevailingwages https://flag.dol.gov/programs/prevailingwages
- imwillofficial 3y agoIt is true. You posting that link over and over doesn’t obviate the fact that we look around collectively and see H1Bs getting paid at the bottom of the band.
- ftyers 3y agoI wonder if it's different in the public sector? I'm at a university and (pay transparency) earn pretty much equivalent to equivalently experienced colleagues. (Edit: in the Midwest)
- manuelabeledo 3y agoIt is not. Visa holder wages are publicly available. People in this thread are making stuff up to support their views.
- hejalajsbsb 3y agoIt depends on the company and I would bet my life’s savings that if a discrepancy exists at Google, it is not intentional. I have many American friends, friends on TN visas, and friends on H1Bs and we are transparent about our pay (to protect each other from poor business practices). Being involved in the process there are so many legal barriers and red tape and people take it all seriously. H1B holders will get paid less over time due to not being able to leave companies at the drop of a hat. A similar but less significant effect holds for TN visas. I have not once seen any significant pay discrepancy for two comparable software engineers at the same company based on visa status.
- porkbeer 3y agoI'll take that bet.
- nostrebored 3y agoWhy? OP mentioned a number of reasons why they don’t believe it to be true
- oceanplexian 3y agoI worked at FAANG and knew more than one Indian on H1B. They weren't getting paid "the same but slightly less". They were getting like 50k TC on a team where the rest of the team was making 200+.
- manuelabeledo 3y ago> They were getting like 50k TC on a team where the rest of the team was making 200+. I don't believe this for a second. Were they outsourced?
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- hejalajsbsb 3y agoTo my knowledge that is unambiguously illegal and I hope they band together to get justice. Were they aware of others in shared circumstances?