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AI girlfriend ads are flooding Instagram and TikTok
- diamondfist25 3y agoIt’s very clear why there’s AI girlfriends and not ai boyfriends What guys desire >> hot girls who can talk to them What girls desire >>
- tennisflyi 3y agoWhile it will only get better, I’m not sure how large the market to jacking off to Pixar like characters is…
- inSenCite 3y agoThe sex work industry has had quite a few interesting disruptions/transitions within a couple of generations. Vanilla sex work was disrupted by porn, porn by digital distribution of amateur content/gig industry (pornhub, onlyfans etc.), and now the gig work by AI-enabled 'companionship' as they put it. Insta has more than enough content that is very similar to what these ads are showing (both male and female), so I'm not entirely sure whether it's a "double standard".
- giancarlostoro 3y agoI would be lying if I said I didn't toy with the thought of making AI girlfriend several years ago before ChatGPT blew up, but it feels scummy. I'm happily married, but I can see some people wanting to make some sort of connection. ChatGPT probably can do that well enough.
- gamecatz 3y agoWonder if the scummy feelings will fade in the future when the tech is better. I used to half-joke that I would end up happily married to a robot in the future, but I can't say I have any interest in the current wave of AI girlfriends.
- giancarlostoro 3y agoSomeone somewhere will. Her was a cringe movie, but its going to eventually happen.
- maerF0x0 3y agoOne of the leaps about AI is that there used to be a human bottleneck in this kind of content. Youtube needed youtubers (content creators), porn sites needed women (the primary bottleneck), etc etc for all digitizable forms of human experience. I find it ironic that in close time proximity to NFTs and digital real estate we see the ability to generate practically unlimited of those things being a foreseeable reality. I think this will only further increase the value of the real, if only as novelty like owning a muscle car that is as/more expensive but slower than a 2024 corvette.
- gamecatz 3y agoI wonder how next-next-gen VR tech plays into this - if we reach a stage where simulations are near indistinguishable from the real thing..
- chasd00 3y agoi've wondered about the sex worker use case for Apple's AVR system. Imagine someone who is into voyeurism puts on a headset, then opens a virtual door, and in walks a virtual sex worker who sits down on their couch...
- maerF0x0 3y agogranted all of this is related to my skill level with prompt -> image AI... I've found that there is a dissatisfying lack of iteration, and modeling in a 3d sense of image generation. Like if Dall-e Spits out an image, I want to be able to move the camera location/angle. Delete certain features (like a freckle or extra hand), place/remove objects from the scenery, change the time of day etc... Both because I'd like to be able to create permutation sets ({Red, blue, green, #c71010} colored {dragon, hydra, medusa, zombie, werewolf}) but also because the specificity of what I'm imagining is hard to get right in a single prompt and I find myself setting up words till I get close, and then just generating 25+ times and picking the best output. Kind of like someone else posted on this Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/artificial/comments/11ovh3j/iterative_prompts_ai_image_generator/ https://www.reddit.com/r/artificial/comments/11ovh3j/iterati...
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- nkingsy 3y agoI've been stunned looking through crowdsourced prompt and "character card" examples for stable diffusion and llama. Got a second 3090 so I could experiment with a few business ideas and work on a graphic novel with my kids. It appears that the primary use case for both of these open source tools currently is NSFW, most of it underage and incestuous (the "step sister/brother/dad/mom" trend in porn is taken a "step" further, removing the all-important "step" part).
- FooBarWidget 3y agoGraphic novel? How do you maintain consistency between different images? When you generate two images with different settings but with the same character inside? Or do you not generate full images? I've read that one technique is to generate a character sheet, and then using traditional graphics editors to paste the characters onto images of different settings. But that may not be a good fit.
- Racing0461 3y ago> is NSFW, most of it underage and incestuous (the "step sister/brother/dad/mom" trend in porn is taken a "step" further, removing the all-important "step" part). Isn't that how the internet started? The porn/weird forums came first, then the corporate finance utility stuff came after. Also how is stepmom/step sister incestuous?
- jamesu 3y agoConsidering the popularity of NSFW roleplaying AI character prompts, I'm not surprised at this kind of development.
- commandlinefan 3y agoIf anything, this development has been artificially suppressed for quite a while for oddly puritanical reasons.
- chasd00 3y agoIt's going to be a huge market, being able to have cyber sex with an AI that will send you generated pictures on demand has no option except massive profitability. Even phone sex with AI is likely possible, some of the voice AIs out there are not bad. Watch some of the presidents play minecraft or presidents discuss anime videos on youtube for examples. It's not very ethical but I could see AIs trained on celebrity social media feeds, scripts, and other content to learn their speaking patterns and then turned into a cyber sex chat bot that can't say no. btw articles says "AI sex workers" not "AI girlfriends" there's a big difference.
- edmundsauto 3y agoIt’s not just the titillation that will sell - there is the old trope that men go to prostitutes to have a therapist they can have sex with. As loneliness washes over the population, these AI connections will appear very inviting. Who knows if it turns out like “her” (the movie) or if it is beneficial to humanity. Like all technologies I suspect it will be a mix.
- siva7 3y agoHope this tech will end loneliness in some people
- TacticalCoder 3y agoHow could this end loneliness? Inevitably the consumer of AI porn shall go out and there shall be real couples, walking while holding hands. And it's going to feel even more lonely then. Hitting the recluse very, very, very hard. The more realistic the simulation, the harder the fall.
- gamecatz 3y agoSame. Though I worry about negative side effects like increased isolation.
- m_fayer 3y agoI’m sure it will, in much the same way opiates relieve the suffering of those with chronic pain.
- gostsamo 3y agoIt will increase it. Porn is cheap gratification without deeper emotional connection. I don't think that people can grow without being challenged by others and AI cannot be programmed to challenge us.
- aenis 3y ago[citation required] on people not being able to challenge themselves - and AI being unable to "challenge" humans. I sure can think of evidence to the contrary. Also, having had a long life, I have to say real sex is quite often also devoid of "deeper emotional connections". YMMV I am sure, but thats often just ..fun?
- jiofj 3y ago>AI cannot be programmed to challenge us. That's funny because everything all chatbots do is say "I'm sorry, as an AI assistant I can't do that"
- alexb_ 3y agoI've been constantly seeing ads about AI-generated porn that has very questionable ethical implications. Every once in a while I'll see an AI-generated video saying "Breaking news - the government is banning this AI program called ExampleSite.Com because it is able to make your friends pictures nude."
- dragontamer 3y agoHmmm. I'm not sure if the anime-girls are AI. I'd need a more careful look than what's available through the article, but I can recognize them as the characters from Konosuba and from One Piece. Possibly fanart, though I know that AI-generators have gotten better at drawing copyrighted characters, the costumes don't have any obvious errors to me. A bit sex'd up, but fan-artists have a habit of sexing-up characters. I do feel like a lot of the "art" was just redrawing various female anime characters in classic American Pinup poses though. -------------- To the AI-generator crowd: do you think if I typed in "Megumin Konosuba" (and maybe a few other keywords) into a Llama prompt / Stable Diffusion and run a few thousand cycles or something, that I'd get an image like those "Mojoly Limited" examples? The easy tells were hands, at least a few months ago. These hands weren't hidden though, they're front-and-center. So have the AI-drawing apps improved upon anatomy that the "hands" problem is solved now? Or is this a situation where you'd still need an artist to fix the shadows / hands / a few details? Like the majority of the image looks fine, but still needs an artist to fix the known AI errors (but you still grossly speed up in the creation of such images?) ----------- I don't think any of the girls there look real to my eyes in any case. But its still an impressive feat if AI has gotten this good at drawing. Sex'd up characters (especially characters that are wearing costumes the target-audience is familiar with) is an age old technique for advertisements in any case. That's why the old "Makes a Porno" movie was that "Star Whores" joke, and why it works. I'm not particularly worried about the widespread use of "sex advertisements" (even if they are AI drawn / generated), though it does seem unfair to allow AI / chatbot sexual imagery while banning real life ones. But on the other hand, I recognize them as cartoons and fake drawings, while a real-life sexual advertisement probably would be far more shocking to me, personally at least. Just thinking out loud here. Again: sexual imagery sells, and always has sold advertisements. The only difference here is the (potential) use of AI to lower costs.
- GaggiX 3y agoTo me they are clearly AI generated but I have a very well trained eye to spot them, to generate them download a custom model from civitAI and a LoRA of the particular anime character you want to generate, then used them with automatic webui or ComfyUI (maybe also invokeAI).
- SCAQTony 3y agoThe demand for such sites demonstrates that loneliness is a "pandemic" of sorts. YMMV
- m_fayer 3y agoMany sex workers know that half their job is sympathetic and selfless companionship. When someone takes a hint from irl and merges sex and companionship into one ai bot, today’s screen-addicted kids will look just fine in comparison.
- maerF0x0 3y agoIn Madmen don draper visits an escort, but you can see that a big part of it is to get the tenderness in response to his own vulnerability that he cannot get from his wife who demands a fake-plastic perfect life. (and Don is no help in that situation either btw)
- 0x0000000 3y ago> lonliness is a "pandemic" of sorts It sure is. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/on-leadership/wp/2017/10/04/this-former-surgeon-general-says-theres-a-loneliness-epidemic-and-work-is-partly-to-blame/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/on-leadership/wp/2017/10...
- maerF0x0 3y ago2017. Extra notable that this happened before governmental enforced loneliness.
- 0xDEF 3y agoIt was trivial to make GPT-4 write erotic or violent stories using the API/Playground back in April and May but now they have neutered it too much. Obviously it was always neutered in the ChatGPT interface.
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- pndy 3y agoDamn, it kinda feels like that Clamp predicted future to the some point with Chobits - it just the tech took a different form https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chobits https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chobits
- FooBarWidget 3y agoWe are nowhere near Chobits-like intelligence.
- EatingWithForks 3y agoI for one am interested why it's specifically AI girlfriend ads and not AI boyfriend ads. Heterosexual women are huge consumers of e.g. dating simulators, romance books, et al. that envision perfect men, bad boys with sweet hearts, wealthy powerful high-earning men who somehow always make time for the beloved. You'd think there'd be just as many AI boyfriend ads-- what teenaged girl wouldn't pay huge money to date $popular_male_singer? [Example comparison: I know for a fact that popular romance publishing houses have straight up algorithmic-level demands of books published with them. Kiss must happen by page X. First sex must happen by chapter Y. Happily Ever After is mandatory, etc. These publishing houses make huge money, maybe the most well-earning genre in all of books.]
- Racing0461 3y ago> what teenaged girl wouldn't pay huge money to date $popular_male_singer Women already have a dating simulator. It's called instagram and dating apps.
- EatingWithForks 3y agoI don't think so, actually. Dealing with real men (through a dating app) means dealing with flawed humans beings in a way that simply doesn't happen in a romance book, same as dealing with real women vs OnlyFans. Men sleep, disagree, forget anniversaries and birthdays, negotiate compromises, and can fall out of love in a way an AI boyfriend wouldn't. Just like real women vs AI girlfriend. So I just don't know why only AI girlfriend ads are flooding social media apps, which we know (at least on Instagram) actually primarily target women/women's body issues. Edited to add: not to mention a/s/l and dick pics! AI boyfriend would NEVER do that, while in a dating app your average woman would probably get that fairly regularly.
- Racing0461 3y ago> Dealing with real men (through a dating app) means dealing with flawed humans beings That's why i said insta/dating apps is a simulator for women. They can interact with "perfect men" on these apps. the ideal firefighter with a golden retriever with a perfect relationship with his mom on tuesday and drake/blue check sliding into their dms on insta setting somthing up on friday. it's a simulator in the sense that women don't get marriage/commitment/a family from these "perfect men".
- HAL3000 3y agoThe Blade Runner 2049 girlfriend style may be the future, and I wonder what effects it will have on society. In a decade or two, we may have AI entities with minds so lifelike that you can't differentiate them from real people. You might wear AR goggles that allow you to see them anywhere in your home, wear a suit that lets you feel their touch and engage in intimate interactions. This perfect AI partner, tailored to your physical ideals, will never betray you, always listen, understand you, and be ready to satisfy your needs. They can share your hobbies, get excited about your interests, be funny and intelligent without any flaws. Consider the future generations, increasingly isolated and reliant on virtual interactions, and it's hard to imagine how they could resist such a prospect. Now, add the fact that these AI companions could be fully controlled by corporations. It becomes a heaven for advertising companies, akin to having not only microphones and cameras in your home but also the ability to influence you through an avatar of a person you have emotional connections with.
- ryandrake 3y agoEven as a happily married guy who has no current use for this technology, I have high hopes for it to provide a great overall benefit to society. If the technology gets good enough that it adequately satisfies the needs of just one violent-tending incel, dissuading him from becoming the next Elliot Rodgers or Toronto Van Guy, then it will have saved lives.
- dahwolf 3y ago"Consider the future generations, increasingly isolated and reliant on virtual interactions, and it's hard to imagine how they could resist such a prospect." What future generations :)
- gattr 3y agoI don't believe haptic suits will be it. Either we'll get direct neural interfaces for all-sense simulation, or (sooner and easier) motorized lifelike androids (don't have to do much, just assume some poses and move a bit during interaction with the user in the 'sheets). Will probably come with detailed embarrassing telemetry for improved customer experience.
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- skilled 3y agoI literally have to claw back my consciousness just to be able to imagine what it is like to have any "joy" (no pun intended for the Blade Runner movie) in something like this. What the...
- nonethewiser 3y agoI might as well be a Christian fundamentalist when it comes to porn. Its irredeemable. I have no hangups about sex. Sex is not bad. Porn is not sex. It’s disturbing to think about a future where porn becomes more immersive and engaging.
- disambiguation 3y agoIsn't immersive porn in the extreme limit just .. sex? Highly available and accessible sex. That already exists in a lot of ways.
- candiodari 3y agoThe idea is that this lowers the price of sex, by a lot. And not just in money. Which is of course exactly the problem a lot of people have with it.
- eunos 3y agoWith the internet polarization,individualization and atomization kept getting stronger, I'd expect more and more individuals will retreat from intrapersonal offline communication including romantic relationships and drown themselves in AI
- nonethewiser 3y agoI think so too. Its already been trending this way. An easy and old example is anxiety young generations feel about calling vs texting. I don’t think demand for removing people dependencies are satisfied.
- eunos 3y agoI'm a bit sad of myself that I am much more comfortable in written communication than speech communication.
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